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Offline Michael Dixon

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Blyth versus Cowpen
« on: Monday 13 June 11 14:28 BST (UK) »

 Instead of Pit Yacka throwing out queries about Blyth, then skipping down to the Working Men's for a game of Dominoes, while Blythians toil over finding the answers for him, this time I am seeking an answer from PY !

In 1907 two neighbouring Urban Districts, on the south bank of the River Blyth, merged into one enlarged Urban District Council.

The 4000 within Blyth UD were amalgamated with the 12000 residents of Cowpen UD, under the name of Blyth Urban District Council, and the rest is history- sort of !

Seeing that Cowpen was bigger. more populous and had more antiquity than new-kid-on-the-block Blyth, why was the newly enlarged U.D. named Blyth, rather than Cowpen ?

I don't know the answer .

Michael
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #1 on: Monday 13 June 11 15:30 BST (UK) »
Could it have taken the name from the river??  Too deep for me both the question and the river!!!!  Ha Ha.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #2 on: Monday 13 June 11 15:44 BST (UK) »


 emmad,

You are correct in that the area called Blyth got it's name from the name of the river. But I still wonder why the newly formed Urban District took the name Blyth instead of Cowpen ?

Michael
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #3 on: Monday 13 June 11 17:02 BST (UK) »
B comes before C,
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #4 on: Monday 13 June 11 20:13 BST (UK) »
Yes, it is a real conundrum, isn't it ?  Years back I learned that they had amalgamated(by Act of Parliament) but I think I learned the facts here, on Rootschat, that Cowpen (Quay) was more populous than Blyth. Blyth was a backwater due to the town centre being flooded by high tides until they rectified matters in the Bridge Street area.  When young I always wondered why it was called 'Bridge Street.' I recall the square near the Golden Fleece and the end of the shipyard, in the 1950s and 1960s.  Nothing on it, but looking at old maps here(Roots) you can see that it was a very old feature of the area.  My grandparents were married in 1915, and it is recorded as Tynemouth.  I thought that Blyth was possibly within the Tynemouth local government area. Incorrect - it had something to do with areas recording births, marriages, and deaths.
And, Michael Dixon, I do not post queries, then skip off to the working mens' clubs - where I live(Yorks) they are struggling as well as those in the North-East.  :'( I was never a clubman when living in Blyth, although I did go in them now and again.  I remember neighbours who would queue for the No.49 bus at about 6pm on a Saturday evening, so that they could get to the Big Club, off Regent Street, to ensure they and their wives had a seat.  I will refrain from the oft used saying, - "Happy Days."
Perhaps here on this site, it might be an idea to start recalling the names/locations of the pubs and clubs in the area.  Your starters for 10 : The Pineapple; The Globe; The Swan. Keep it gannin, lads and lasses. Nivvor forget what a canny toon Blyth was, and is. :) ;)

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #5 on: Monday 13 June 11 21:15 BST (UK) »


 Gillian I think your alphabetical suggestion is a good one !

 Michael
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #6 on: Monday 13 June 11 21:22 BST (UK) »
PYofB,

The Pineapple- smallest pub in Blyth.
The White Swan - the coolest- at least in the upstairs lounge where Betty, managers wife, would play all the latest R'Roll on her Dansette record player.
Rarely went into the Globe ( close to the Swan) cos that was my father's pub !

 Michael
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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 01:51 BST (UK) »
Going back to the original question - I reckon it was vested interest, politicians then being no different to politicians now.

The folks responsible for the naming of the council probably came from Blyth  ;)

Christine

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Re: Blyth versus Cowpen
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 14 June 11 06:30 BST (UK) »

 Nice one, Christine !.

 The new "authority" took over the old Cowpen UDC's building in Seaforth Street.  Maybe the Blyth officials took most of the key posts.  Maybe a takeover rather than a merger ?

Michael
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Westport Co Mayo. Northumberland
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DIXON
Cumberland.. Brampton, Carlisle, ENGLAND

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