Help please

[vandab]

Hi,
I am trying to take my family tree back further and have come to a stop.
I have a John Cronk son of William and Elizabeth, Born c1799.
He married a Sarah Bridger in 1830 and this was a 2nd marriage (1st wife died ).In the 1841 census there is a James Cronk showing and i think this may have been from his 1st marriage, i have Jame's death certificate having died in 1843. I would love to find his birth and also John's 1st wife.
Can anyone point me in the direction i need to go, i have tried all the usual channels ie IGI batch nos, Ancestry etc. Any infomation on this family would be a help,
Thanks in advance,
Vanda
The family are from Edenbridge/Cowden/ Penhurst areas

[crownute]

G'Day.

I have only just joined this forum and I too am searching for my ancestors by the name of "Cronk"

and I am wondering IF we are researching the same family??
 
And I too am struggling to find any information any further back past the 1830's

here is a quick run down of what I have just found.

Marriage
9th July 1866, Holy Trinity, Clapham, Lambeth
John Cronk Age: 30 - occupation: Labourer
Father Name: John Cronk - occupation: Labourer
Eleanor Harbrough Age: 37 Widow
Eleanor's Fathers Name: James Sheppard - occupation: Labourer

1871 census RG10/699 Folio 127
John Cronk Head Head 33 b Edenbridge, Kent...Labourer
Ellanor Cronk Wife 43 Edenbridge, Kent
Allen E Harbrow Stepson 12 b Tunbridge
John Cronk Son 8 b Brixton, Surrey
William J Cronk Son 4 b Brixton, Surrey
Henry Pearson Lodger 25 b Conden, Kent
9 Upper Orchard St, Clapham, Surrey

Baptism
John Cronk
12th Mar 1865 St Leonard, Streatham, Lambeth
Father: John Cronk
Mother: Eleanor Cronk

Baptism
William James Cronk
20th Sep 1868 All Saints, Clapham Park, Lambeth
Father: John Cronk
Mother: Eleanor Cronk

Does this John Cronk have anything to do with the John Cronk you are researching?

I f so any information you can throw my way would be of great assistance to me.

Cheers Greg

[vandab]

Hi,
 Yes this my family my mum was a Cronk will help with things but at the mo I have just  moved(yesterday) so I only have a mobile broadband when I get connected I will let you know  but if I forget  message me again
Vanda

[welsh lady]

Edenbridge Parish Records
Baptisms
28th Jan 1838-John Cronk son of John (occ-Butcher)and Sarah Cronk
7th Feb 1836-James Cronk son of John (occ-Butcher)and Sarah Cronk
7th Feb 1836-Sarah Cronk dau of John (occ-Butcher)and Sarah Cronk
10th Jan 1841-Henry Cronk son of John (occ-Butcher)and Sarah Cronk
5th Feb 1843-George Cronk son of John (occ-Lab) and Sarah Cronk

Where did you get John and Sarahs marriage from ?
Where was John the elder married to Sarah born in 1799?

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

Edenbridge Burials
James Cronk age 13 March 21st  1843

His baptism looks to be above in 1836 as they baptised two children  were probably older when christened ? so hes not from Johns first marriage hes from John and Sarahs if baptism is him.Or i suppose could have been Anns (added see burial below)and just baptised later when John was remarried ?

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

Heres the marriage and baptism
Extrcted Parish Record

1st Sept 1835 St George The Martyr Southwark,Surrey
John Cronk to Sarah Bridger

Baptisms Penhurst Kent
Sarah Bridger
3rd Oct 1813
Parents-Edward and Hannah Bridger

So heres a possible burial of Johns first wife no others anywhere near that date in Edenbridge anyway

Edenbridge Burials
Ann Cronk age 44 Jan 31st 1835

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

And i see you have the elder Johns birthplace of Cowden ,Kent  off the census and his baptism off the IGI parents William and Elizabeth,Just wanted to confirm details before i looked again

Will see later if i can find anything else

Welsh Lady

[welsh lady]

Found by googling Cronk Cowden youll need to confirm this
From The Peerless Family Tree

Elizabeth Peerless b-6th Oct 1765 Cowden  married William Cronk on 14/10/1788
their son John b-1799 Cowden married Sarah Bridger.William died at Cowden age 65 in 1827.

Welsh Lady

[Alan Harbrow]

Hello, I can help with Ellinor Shepherd who was previously married to Allen Harbrough born 1818 Westerham, Kent. They had 4 children Mary Jane b. 21 Jan 1849 Hartfield Sussex. Ezekiel b. 1850 Withyham Sussex. Edwin Allen b. 26 Feb 1859 Withyham. d. 1 Apr 1886 Little Bay, Sydney, Australia and Stephen b. 1859. Edwin Allen Harbrow had many children in Australia, don't have any info on the other 3. You can check out my family history website on Harbrows it's dub dub dub dot pandorasbox dot co dot nz. I wasn't aware that Ellinor,s husband Allen had died and that she remarried so thanks for that. There are many Harbrows in Australia
Best regards, Allen Harbrow, Christchurch, New Zealand
ps. I am not from the line of Allen Harbrow but from his brother William Harbrow who came out to Australia in 1842. Name changed from Harbrough to Harbrow at about that time.
Edwin Allen harbrow emigrated to Sydney, Australia with 3 of his children on the 'Gulf of Mexico' arriving on 24 March 1885. He was a stonemason.