Kimber family of Sapperton, Circencester and Nth / Sth Cerney

[fastfusion]

hello there....

having a few probs on some research......

firstly I need to know , apart from entries on fs.o is there complete transcripts of Cirencester available as some of the early structuring pre 1850 seems to be awol..........

next Sapperton coverage on fso is showing marriages around 1815 and around period but no christenings.....    I am missing in particular one Richard [1815], William [1815] and one Edmund [1817].......    as indicated by numerous census of 41 & 51......... and if memory serves me well I had trouble once before trying to find Sapperton for Shergold entries...........

next issue is North & South Cerney records seemed to be intertwined for the Kimber family of William & Esther with some christenings appearing as written for both N & S whereas some are written for one or tother.......    Is this common for Cerney???

I am having difficulties finding many death or burial references pre 1837 for GLS.... have these been transcribed or still lurking in a cupboard......    as the only ones I am finding are non conforms for Bristol.....

Next prob is that apart from probate references for Bristol for which I have the complete set of pdfs i am not seeing much for Cirencester or other places in GLS  ...where is the indexing for them kept please..?

If anyone does have discs for any of the places in this post..... I would appreciate a comphrehensive list of Kimber and variant for GLS apart from those on fs.o   but maybe the list could be used to double check fs.o..........    { pm me and I will give an addie to send that to}

The purpose of my doing Kimber in Cirencester is mainly connection to Shergolds but also because of connection to the Wine & Spirit shop in front of the old Brewery which is now an arts centre...

thanks folk for assistance ......

 

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfushion,
All of the data is readily available at the Gloucestershire Family History Society (GFHS).
Baptisms of the children of William & Esther KIMBER, a Farmer of Sapperton, at St Kenelm, Sapperton from 1813:-
18/03/1813, Richard KIMBER (William was listed as a Yeoman)
16/04/1815, Susan KIMBER
18/05/1817, Edmund KIMBER
07/01/1819, Mary KIMBER
17/06/1821, John KIMBER, born 06/03/1821
18/05/1823, Francis Frederic KIMBER, born 08/02/1823

William KIMBER married Hester PLAYNE at Holy Trinity, Minchinhampton, 5th January 1805, by Licence.

Undoubtedly there are other children baptised between 1805 and 1812, but GFHS Baptism Index only covers 1813-1837. The period, 1805-1812 are held on microfiche at Glos Archives, and I could do a lookup for you next time I'm in GA if you wish. (GA Ref: PFC 282 IN 1/2 1).

I have a house full of friends attending the Cheltenham races and must attend to their needs now, but will get back to you later with regards to your other queries.

Victor

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfusion,
Well, that's breakfast over, so back to the post in hand. All of this data is sourced from GFHS.

All Saints, North Cerney, Burials:-
KIMBER, Ellen, 16/07/1836, 35, Worcester
KIMBER, John, 22/12/1834, 26, North Cerney
KIMBER, Rebecca, 12/05/1836, 72, Tetbury
KIMBER, William, 23/03/1825, 66, North Cerney

St Kenelm, Sapperton, Burials:-
KIMBER, Ann, 06/01/1822, 32, Frampton
KIMBER, Ann, 11/06/1823, 43, Sapperton
KIMBER, Charles, 13/03/1814, 4, Sapperton
KIMBER, Edmund, 19/10/1856, 80, Frampton
KIMBER, Esther, 23/02/1847, 63, North Cerney
KIMBER, James, 20/12/1829, 47, Frampton
KIMBER, James, 01/01/1837, 25, Sapperton
KIMBER, Mary, 21/06/1857, 90, Sapperton
KIMBER, Robert, 14/04/1813, 2, Sapperton
KIMBER, Stephen John, 23/04/1853, 11 days, Frampton
KIMBER, Thomas, 05/09/1857, 79, Frampton
KIMBER, William, 14/12/1826, 19, Hampton
KIMBER, William, 10/11/1855, 82, Preston

Victor

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfushion,
More data for you all sourced from GFHS.
St Kenelm, Sapperton, Marriages:-
Anne KIMBER married George PAYNE of Minchinhampton, at Sapperton, 17th February 1803, by Licence.
James KIMBER married Ann CLAPHAM, at Sapperton, 19th September 1814, by Banns.
Ann KIMBER married William James SHERGOLD, at Sapperton, 3rd May 1834, by Licence.
Victor
p.s. There were NO KIMBER baptisms at South Cerney

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfusion,
And now some information about Wills & Probate available from Glos Archives.
Wills - searchable by surname, place, year and occupation, 1541-1858:-
http://gloucestershire.gov.uk/genealogy/Search.aspx
Copies can be ordered online or are available on self-service microfiche in the searchroom.
The National Probate Calender can be viewed at Gloucestershire Archives or searched online via www.ancestry.co.uk
Victor

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfushion,
All data supplied by GFHS.
SHERGOLD, Ann, dau of James & Ann of Cirencester, baptised at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 17th September 1815, born 23rd June 1815.
SHERGOLD, Caroline, dau of James & Ann of Cirencester, baptised at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 29th August 1817, born 30th July 1817.
SHERGOLD, Eliza, dau of James & Ann of Cirencester, baptised at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 23rd November 1813, born 6th September 1813.
SHERGOLD, Sarah, dau of James & Ann, a Milliner of Cirencester, baptised at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 24th August 1820, born 21st July 1820.

SHERGOLD, Jane Elizabeth, dau of Solomon & Elizabeth, a Labourer of Chedworth, baptised at St Andrew, Chedworth, 17th September 1820.
SHERGOLD, Mary Ann, dau of Solomon & Elizabeth, a Woodman of Upper End, Chedworth, baptised at St Andrew, 29th September 1816.

SHERGOLD, Joseph, son of William & Mary, a Woodman of Chedworth, baptised at St Andrew, Chedworth, 7th November 1814.

Victor

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfusion,
More data courtesy of GFHS.
Solomon SHERGOLD married Elizabeth DRAKE at St Mary, Cheltenham, 10th October 1814, by Banns.
Ann SHERGOLD married John James IRELAND at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 1st January 1835, by Licence.
Eliza SHERGOLD married Edmund SLATTER at St John the Baptist, Cirencester, 5th February 1835, by Licence.
Mary SHERGOLD married George SIMPER at St Andrew, Chedworth, 9th January 1809, by Banns.
Victor

[Victor Harvey]

Hi fastfusion,
Again, all sources are from GFHS.
St John the Baptist, Cirencester, Burials:-
09/12/1821, SHERGOLD, Caroline, aged 4
11/10/1834, SHERGOLD, Ann, aged 59
24/03/1843, SHERGOLD, James, aged 75
That just about exhausts my data.
Victor

[fastfusion]

victor.......................

thank you very much for spending the  time to do all that material.....   i will add to what i have and see what gaps are left......     


ps     there is probably good reason for the nth sth cerney records and I having looked at maps last nite discovered a river.......      and the thames canal is also near sth cerney so i am assuming that branch is related to watertrades of some sort.

the Minchinhampton Kimbers seem to be related to the Martha / William Payne (sic spelling)factory and luckily i have a book of the history of that branch but does not mention the Kimber side.





once again  thx victor.