Help me find GGgrandfather James Mclarens Death and his family in Paisley.

[Croy Girl]

Hi

Can anyone help .

My GGgrandparents. James Mclaren born ireland 1828 married Catherine Conell born ireland 1833.

Catherine lived with her parents Timothy and Ellenor Connell in Johnstone .They came from Ireland.
Got them on the 1851 cencus for Johnstone .

Tried to find James Mclarens parents .BIG BRICK WALL.LOL

They married in Paisley 1855. Ive got them on the 1861 cencus for Johnstone.They have James b. 1855 ,My G GRANDFATHER  age 6  .Ellanor J  4 and Agnes  3.I know they had hellen born 1862 and Jonh b 1863.Hellen married John Mclaughlan 1884 and she died age 81 in 1940.in PAISLEY.Hellen and john lived Graham street at time of marriage.

Cant find anything on Ellanor J.

John died as a baby.

agnes married Robert neville.She died Paisley .


Tried to find family of Hellen and John Mclaughlan.It was Agnes mclaren Nevilles daughter who signed her death certificate .So maybe they didnt have family.

Cant find james and Catherine Mclaren on 1871 cencus.

Their son James mclaren b 1855 married Elizabeth Gorman in 1874 .Said Father james mclaren was deceased.I have tried loads on scotlands people over the past few years to find him.Both James and Elizabeth address was for Lochwinoch at time of marriage.



Catherine connell Mclaren died 1880 in pollockshaws.Her daughter Hellen Mclaren signed her death certificate.Helen would have been 19 at the time of her  mothers death.

Could anyone help .Either finding them on 1871 cencus or  James Mclarens death.


Marguerite

[rosie17]

I s this the correct family at 6.School Wynd Registration District Paisley Middle Church
James McLaren aged 32 B Ireland occupation ironstone  miner
Cathrin McLaren aged 27
James McLaren aged 6.
Ellenor McLaren aged 3,
Agnes McLaren aged 2
Margt Stewart 37 lodger
Mary Stewart 10 lodger

[Croy Girl]

Hi rosie

Yes thats them.Cant find them on 1871  cencus after that.If i found them on 1871 i could find out if they had anymore children, appart from John and Hellen ,who were born after 1861 cencus.Also james could have been deceased by 1871.He was in 1874 when his son james and elizabeth married.

Marguerite

[rosie17]

There is a tree that has him dead 1863 but you can't always rely on that being correct just checked S P and nothing showing ...Yes they are very hard to find 

[Croy Girl]

Really.

whos tree is he on.

Maybe he did die 1863 .

I Have also tried to find parents of James Mclaren 1829.I guessed his mother was Agnes after the naming pattern.As hellen and Ellenor are from catherine conells family.Also John i think might have been his fathers name.

I found a James Mclaren married to a Catherine but her name wasnt Connell.But it had father John Mclaren and mother Agnes Mclaren.

Im away to have another look on Scotlands people.

As you say they really are hard to find.lol.

Thanks

marguerite

[rosie17]

Marriage for James McLaren to Catherine Connell 2/2/1852  Abbey Paisley Renfrewshire
Daughter Agnes born 20/6/1859 High Church Paisley father James McLaren and mother is Catherine Connelly
James McLaren  20/5/1855 Abbey Paisley

[Croy Girl]

Hi rosie

Thanks for the pm.

Just had a good look at James Mclarens  born 1852 birth certificate.

Dont know if its because its an RC. Birth certificate ,but its got ages of parents ,where they were born and how many children are alive and deceased.

It says father james mclaren age 25 born antrim county.

Mother Catherine Connell age 29  Ireland.AND SOMETHING I OVERLOOKED.

1 boy and 1 girl living

So james wasnt the first born as i thought.HE HAD A SISTER.

Yet she wasnt on the 1861 cencus so maybe she died.

thanks

Marguerite

[rosie17]

Hi Marguerite
                      Did you mean James McLaren born 20/5/1855 Abbey Paisley ? the birth certificates for that year do show how many children born and how many living ....Pity they are not all like that what did it say on the death certificate for the mother Catherine ...did she marry again ? Have had a good look on the 1871 census trying all variations with the name ...but no luck so far
Rosie

[rosie17]

Not sure about this one 1881 census Registration District Paisley Civil Parish High Church Paisley
Ellen McLaren age 17 says born Ireland abt 1864 occupation thread mill worker living with Stewart family ..relationship cousin in the 1861 census  there was a Margaret Stewart with the family
Johnston Stewart b1825 Ireland occupation labourer
Margaret Stewart b 1833 Ireand ( wife )
Elizabeth Stewart b 1863 Paisley ,,daughter
Jane Stewart b 1871 Paisley daughter
Johnston Stewart b 1876 says granddaughter ?

Margaret Stewarts maiden name was Hughes