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Albert Edward Thiselton
« on: Wednesday 08 January 14 04:51 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find out who the parents of Albert Edward Thiselton were?

He married Minnie Eliza Pay in Durban in 1899.

He arrived in Durban in 1882.

You can find them on the 1901 census in London, returning to Durban later that year.

Their daughter Edna was born in Durban.

According to an earlier post on here regarding the Pay family Albert Edward's father was from Faversham in Kent, but there is no mention of his name.

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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 06:19 GMT (UK) »
There is this family in 1881 Living at 2-4 Cassland Road Hackney

Mary S. Thistleton    44 Draper b London
John William Thistleton    23 Drapers Assistant
Ebenezer S. Thistleton    20 Drapers Assistant
Albert Ed. Thistleton    17 Drapers Clerk b Hackney
Fanny F. Thistleton    15 Milliners Assistant
Fredk. Ringger    22 Visitor
Grace Morgan    23 Servant
Florence Brain    19 Servant
Henry Pearce    22 Servant
Frank Williams    18 Servant
Josiah Moores    15 Servant


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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 06:27 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kay.

I found the below in a post on Rootsweb requesting info on John William Thiselton and Mary Sophia might well be the Mary S in the family you have posted. If so it would mean Father Thomas Thiselton was Albert Edward's father.

It would also tie in with a thread on here that said Albert Edward's father was from Faversham.

John William (Known as William) Thiselton
 Born 4th February 1858 England =- Died 27th Feb 1896 Adelaide South Australia Australia - Father Thomas Thiselton (Last Known Address Faversham Kent England)
 Mother Mary Sophia (Surname Unknown)
 John William married Rose Leagassick (Known as Rose Legassie) Benjamin on the 5th December 1888 at Saint Luke Church Adelaide South Australia Australia



The writer of the above also requested info on William Mathew Thiselton:

"William Mathew Thiselton (Later known as William Mathew Thiselton Dyer- Born C1783 London London England- Christened 2nd March 1873 Ferrriby Lincoln England - Died 26th May 1842 London London England - Father George Thiselton Mother Sarah (Surname unknown)
 William Married Louise Merzeau on the 17th December 1807 at St. Pancreas - Old
 Church - Middlesex - England
 They had 3 children - Thomas , William George and Miss Louisa
 INFORMATION ON WILLIAM MATHEW THISELTON'S PARENTS IS
 REQUIRED - AND WHEN AND WHY SURNAME WAS CHANGED TO
 THISELTON DYER"

I wonder if William Mathew's son Thomas Thiselton was the same as the one who was from Faversham and who was married to Mary Sophia? 
 

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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 06:30 GMT (UK) »
That sounds good

Although the children do seem to vary expect for Ebenezer this could be the family in 1871 minus Albert?  They were living in Grove St/ Hampton Terrace, Hackney

Thos Thiseltor    39 Draper b Faversham
Mary Thiseltor    34 b St Pancras
Joseph Thiseltor 16 b Dover
Sophia Thiseltor 12 d Dover
Ebenezer Thiseltor 10 b Hackney
Sarah Barnes    21 General Servant
RG10 Piece: 331 Folio: 52 Page: 12


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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 06:53 GMT (UK) »
I am trying to find out who the parents of Albert Edward Thiselton were?

He married Minnie Eliza Pay in Durban in 1899.

He arrived in Durban in 1882.

You can find them on the 1901 census in London, returning to Durban later that year.

Their daughter Edna was born in Durban.

According to an earlier post on here regarding the Pay family Albert Edward's father was from Faversham in Kent, but there is no mention of his name.

There are estate files for both Albert and Minnie at the National Archives.  Generally speaking his estate file should give the name of his parents.  I suggest that you order a copy of it through eggsa.org

There is also a scan of their marriage certificate on familysearch, Natal marriages, scan number 279.  They were married on 20 June 1889.  At the archives there is also a copy of the anti-nuptial contract that they signed.

DEPOT     NAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MSCE                                                                 
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 22894/1935                                                           
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          THISELTON, ALBERT EDWARD. (S/S THISELTON, MINNIE ELIZA).             
STARTING  1935                                                                 
ENDING    1936
                                                                 
DEPOT     TAB                                                                   
SOURCE    MHG                                                                   
TYPE      LEER                                                                 
VOLUME_NO 0                                                                     
SYSTEM    01                                                                   
REFERENCE 97812                                                                 
PART      1                                                                     
DESCRIPTION          THISELTON, MINNIE ELIZA.                                             
STARTING  19370000                                                             
ENDING    19370000                                                             
REMARKS   PREDECEASED SPOUSE ALBERT EDWARD THISELTON.

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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 06:56 GMT (UK) »
Great thanks Kay.

Would you have any idea whether this Thomas Thiselton's father was William Mathew Thiselton?

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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 07:11 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Anc that lists William's father as John Thiselton b 1803 Faversham and Mary Jackson b 1809 and there is this birth from a Non Confirmist Register

Thomas Thiselton born 3 Nov 1831 Faversham, Kent Born behind the Town Hall in the Market Place in Faversham
Father - John Thiselton Bookseller Stationer
Mother - Mary Thiselton Daughter of William Jackson Carpenter and Undertaker  34 William Street in the Parish of St ?? Edit Possibly Pancras Middlesex

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This looks like the family in 1841 Living in the Market Place in Faversham

John Thiselton    35 Bookseller
William Thiselton 10
Thomas Thiselton 9
John Thiselton    8
Henry Thiselton    7



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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 07:35 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Kay

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Re: Albert Edward Thiselton
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 January 14 19:57 GMT (UK) »
Kay you have been most helpful already and I would appreciate it if you could post any other info that takes the tree back even further  :) Thanks!