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Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« on: Wednesday 12 November 14 13:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi again, Everyone,
I was wondering whether anybody could help me with Exeter's parishes in the late 18thC...
First of all there is a marriage on 23rd January 1786 at "St Petrock, Exeter", between a John MOGRIDGE and a Betty CORNISH according to Ancestry.
Then there's a series of baptisms for their children, the first two at St Mary Arches; the next four at St Paul; and finally they must have moved away a little, for the last two are in West Teignmouth.
I realise that these medieval cities had churches and parishes crowding in on one another - but may I ask whether St Petrock, St Mary Arches and St Paul are/were close together in the city of Exeter.
Many thanks, Keith
N.B. dates of baptisms: St Mary Arches 1787 and 1789; St Paul 1792, 1794, 1798 and 1800

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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:01 GMT (UK) »
Cemetery Friends,
Now, THAT is a wonderful map, thanks so much for putting the link to it on this thread.
All three parishes very close to one another, labelled 262, 266 and 268.  I'd begun to think that maybe St Petrock was a mistranscription - was he a real saint, or some kind of variation on St Peter?
It always amazes me how cheek by jowl these Medieval City Parishes were to one another, absolutely crammed together!
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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:10 GMT (UK) »
The parish is Petrock so not a mistranscription, he was associated with a monastery at Padstow and Pedroc-stowe in Devon is attributed to him.
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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:35 GMT (UK) »
Cemetery Friends,
Well, he must be a local saint, I've never heard of a St Petrock before.  Thanks so much for all your local knowledge on this!
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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 17:42 GMT (UK) »
There's lots of mentions of St Petrock in Cornwall and Devon!!

The Devon Flag is St Petroc's cross, and he is a patron saint of Cornwall, along with St Piran and St Michael.

See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Petroc
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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 November 14 18:13 GMT (UK) »
...and I never knew that Devon had its own flag, a white cross on a green background, KGarrad, thanks very much for that.  Couldn't quite work out from that Wikipedia entry whether he would have been martyred or not at the end of the 6thC.  Or was one of the stipulations for being canonised then that you endured a terrible death for your faith.
Nice to think of St Petrock's church right there on the High Street, in view of the Cathedral, from what I read...
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Actually, if he's got a cross attributed to him, he surely must have been crucified, then.  But by whom - the Romans were long gone from Britain by then?

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« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 November 14 12:45 GMT (UK) »
…and presumably I'd have to go to the County Record Office in Truro to see whether that 1786 marriage had any details of who the parents of bride and groom might have been, and whether they were both/either "of this parish of St Petrock" or not; perhaps even an occupation for John…
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…and no mention of a violent end to Petrock's life that I can find, so perhaps the cross is simply the Christian symbol being used.

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Re: Help needed with Exeter parishes in the late 18thC
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 November 14 13:00 GMT (UK) »
Keith,

The flag was only designed (by a student) in 2003, and adopted in 2006.

It uses the traditional Devon colours of Green, white and black - as used by Devon Rugby, Exeter University and Plymouth Argyle FC.

So I wouldn't read too much into the symbolism!
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