Looking for help with the 1901/1911 Census of Ireland please

[Luzzu]

Hi,

With regard to the 1911 census, I have found the family I am looking for:- E M Tunny, Winifred Tunny, aged 39, and sons Thomas Patrick and John Martin.  They are living at Cuffs Grange, Grange, Kilkenny.  However when I bring up the image, E M Tunny isn't entered on the form and there is a note at the bottom saying he is entered on Form H (Barrack Form).  I am presuming this may mean he was a soldier.

My problem is that I can't find the image where E M Tunny is entered.  His name is Edward Martin by the way and he was born in 1870.

Moving to the 1901 census,  I have found Winifred (spelt Wenifred on the census and aged 30) together with son Thomas living in the household of John Bourke, aged 70, at Sunville Lower, Ardpatrick, Limerick.  John Bourke is Winifred's father.  Her husband is missing again and I can't locate him at all in 1901.

Can anyone help please?

Luzzu 

[scotmum]

If in Barracks, he may just have been recorded under his initials, E. T., for example:

 http://www.rootschat.com/links/019yg/

and not necessarily be in Ireland.

Also, have you considered he may have been a policeman rather than a soldier?

What occupation did he list at his marriage to Winnifred in Kilmallock in 1898 or on birth certificate of youngest son?

Could this be him in 1901:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Kilkenny/Pilltown/Pilltown/1446617/   Note that it is at Royal Irish Constabulary barracks.

[scotmum]

If it is him, for details on researching RIC ancestors see:

http://www.royalirishconstabulary.com/index2012.html

http://www.eneclann.ie/2011/07/my-ancestor-was-a-policeman/

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/search/db.aspx?dbid=6087 (this index returns an Edward M Tunny - I don't have a current sub that I check it for you  though)

etc.

Also, FindMyPast has a policeman, E M Tunny, listed on numerous (200+) Irish Petty Session Court registers in right timescale/area.

[heywood]

Hello,

There is an a Edward M Tunny 19 yrs born County Mayo enlisted in RIC 1890.
This ties in with that census record posted by scotmum.
Heywood

[gaffy]

Hello,

There is an a Edward M Tunny 19 yrs born County Mayo enlisted in RIC 1890.
This ties in with that census record posted by scotmum.
Heywood

Probably him, but just to note that he is described as married.

[taramcdsmall]

ancestry has a tree for what appears to be the same chap BUT

he is down as Edward J Tunny married to Catherine T Burke.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VFMT-Q44

Tara

[taramcdsmall]

Sorry

I just noticed that YOUR Edward's wife was called Winifred !

What's the odds ~ both chaps called Edward Tunny BOTH born the same year, BOTH married ladies called Burke, BOTH were military men, BOTH were from Mayo 

Tara

[scotmum]

Likely 1911 census entry for him:

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Kilkenny/Grange/Cuffes_Grange/526607/

and now a Sergeant.

Address is noted as 12.1 whilst Winifred's is 12.2 - so it would seem the family are living in tied police accommodation/officer's house.

[heywood]

Sorry

I just noticed that YOUR Edward's wife was called Winifred !

What's the odds ~ both chaps called Edward Tunny BOTH born the same year, BOTH married ladies called Burke, BOTH were military men, BOTH were from Mayo 

Tara

That one was born 1874, Lowpark.

There is an Edward Tunny, 1870 born Balla, with parents Thomas Tunny and Biddy Mullee 
There is also a Martin with a parent, Edward in Swineford.