Scotland's People Centre .. Lookup please?

[Isabel H]

Hi Alex,
Where did you get the info that Alexander Miller was born in Alva, Stirling in 1829?
I’m sure Alva is in Clackmannanshire.

It's a bit confusing as the boundaries changed. Alva was in Stirlingshire at one time.

[New Zealander]

Hi Isabel

That information has been corrected now in our family record.  Have started to update our records in anticipation of a visit to Clackmannanshire and surrounding area next year.

Thank you for your interest

Alex G
New Zealand

[Forfarian]

In Margaret Miller’s death certificate her mother is given as Janet White.
Perhaps Margaret was illegitimate.

Alex, if the death certificate gives Margaret's mother's name as simply 'Janet White' this would imply that Janet was not married to William Miller.

If it is shown as 'Janet Miller, M S White', this implies that Janet was married to William Miller. ('M S' stands for 'Maiden Surname')

[New Zealander]

Forfarian

Thank you for that .. didn't know previously.  Certificate states :- "Janet Miller M.S. White".

Cheers

Alex G  

[buckhyne]

Good call Forfarian.
Surely Janet White could have given birth to Margaret then later married William Miller?

[Forfarian]

Good call Forfarian.
Surely Janet White could have given birth to Margaret then later married William Miller?

Yes, of course. That would make no difference to the way Janet was listed on her death certificate, but it would affect how Margaret's birth/baptism were recorded, if they were recorded at all, of course.

The IGI has an indexed listing for Margaret Miller, daughter of William Miller and Janet Whyte, born 8 August and baptised 20 September 19829, parish of Orwell, county of Kinross.

[buckhyne]

The IGI has an indexed listing for Margaret Miller, daughter of William Miller and Janet Whyte, born 8 August and baptised 20 September 19829, parish of Orwell, county of Kinross.

Well done for finding that.
I couldn't.
It's a funny family.
In the 1851 census Margaret says she is born in Dollar and Alexander says he is born in Alva.
In the 1881, 1891 and 1901 census Alex claims he is born in Crieff, Perthshire.
I found this in the 1861 census for Tillicoultry, Clackmannan.
1861 census
MARY   MILLER   HEAD   36   1825   CRIEFF   
MARGARET   MILLER   SISTER   28   1833   CRIEFF   
ELIZABETH   MILLER   SISTER   25   1836   CRIEFF   
Census place: Park Street, Tillicoultry, Clackmannan

It makes ye wonder.

[jonn]

Hello All,

This looks like Margaret Miller, on the 1841 census.

Address, Baker Street, Dollar Town, Clackmannanshire.

Graham Robert, M. age 45 years, Labourer, born outside census county,
Janet Graham, F. age 40 years, born outside census county,
Margt Miller, F. age 11 years, born Clackmannanshire.

The interesting point on this census is that a Robert Graham, married a Janet White, 31/Dec/1836. Dollar, Clackmannanshire.

Regards,
Jonn.

[Forfarian]

The interesting point on this census is that a Robert Graham, married a Janet White, 31/Dec/1836. Dollar, Clackmannanshire.

Also, Margaret seems to have been the only child of William Miller and Janet White, which would fit with Janet being widowed and remarrying. Or with her never having married William, and Margaret's death certificate being economical with the truth.

Margaret's baptism record would clarify the question whether or not she was illegitimate. You can get it from www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk