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Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« on: Monday 21 July 14 12:50 BST (UK) »
The above was my 2nd cousin, twice removed. She married James Mountain in 1916 at Lewisham, London; I'm not sure whether he died (can find no record for it) but Hilda emigrated to Canada in 1928/29 and married William A Bates 15 May 1929 at Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada, they had a son there apparently (can find no record).
Between 1929 and 1959 they again emigrated but this time to NSW Australia.
Hilda died 21 Jun 1959 at Mount Victoria in the Blue Mountains, I'm told but no headstone can be found in the local cemetery. I don't know when William died.
Help please.
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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 July 14 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi their is this departure to Canada:-

Hilda Mountain 39 occ Housewife departing Southampton for Quebec 29th April 1929 on SS Alaunia

Which if her suggests her husband was still alive?

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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 July 14 13:29 BST (UK) »
Yes keyboard it's very strange, divorces weren't easy in those days either.
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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 July 14 13:46 BST (UK) »
Hi again, just managed to view original, her address looks to be 37, Frithwood Avenue, Norwood in the UK, a search of electoral rolls for that area may give clues possibly?

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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 July 14 13:56 BST (UK) »
Hi their is this departure to Canada:-
Hilda Mountain 39 occ Housewife departing Southampton for Quebec 29th April 1929 on SS Alaunia

Which if her suggests her husband was still alive?
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I don't understand why you say that. What makes you think her first husband was still alive?
 In those days, a widow usually kept her deceased husband's name until the next marriage, which the OP says was not until 15 MAY 1929.  How long did it take to sail & (presumably) rail from UK to Winnipeg, Manitoba in Canada?
??? ??? ???
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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 July 14 13:59 BST (UK) »
 :) Have no problem with your thinking, just suggesting her husband could still possibly be alive as she is portrayed as Housewife?

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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 July 14 21:11 BST (UK) »
NSW death index .. IF the informant knew, Hilda's marriages, kids names etc should be noted on the death cert.

14068/1959   BATES   HILDA KATE   father JAMES ALEXANDER   mother KITTY district KATOOMBA
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BATES   Hilda Kate   Death notice   DOD  21 JUN 1959   Death      at Mount Victoria      Sydney Morning Herald  published   24JUN1959

You can request a copy of the above notice on the below link.. i think they still do it.
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Possible arrival to Australia
BATES   H K   DOB 1890   —   year of arrival 1952   Passenger Lists leaving UK 1890-1960   Sydney, New South Wales, Australia

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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #7 on: Monday 21 July 14 21:35 BST (UK) »
Their was also another possible voyage:-

Mrs Hilda K Bates aged 62 occ Housekeeper 22nd January 1953 London to Sydney on SS Esperance Bay?
This lady had serious money, or just worked at her address in UK it was Flat 114, Chiltern Court, Baker Street, London. Very posh! same address as 1952 voyage, c/o a Mrs Newman possibly?

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Re: Hilda Kate Bates b1890 Crayford, Kent d1959 NSW
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 July 14 09:17 BST (UK) »
Thank you all very much. The Ryerson index will let you print the details that you showed giblet direct to the printer but no other details were shown.
The problem with the NSW bmd site is that the certs cost more than the ones here!
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Rosser, Henderson, Chapman, Clarkson, Harper, Healey, Horth, Page, Bowers, Ritchie, Sheen, Smith and Weymark.