Help me find Felix Mcmurray

[paulsplace2009]

Hi Everyone

I am hopeing that someone can help me....

I am trying to find out more about My 4 x Gr Grandfather and Grandmother.....

My 4 x Gr Grandfather was Felix Mcmurray and he married a catherine loughran in ireland (i dont have dates for marraige)

They had a daughter - Catherine Mcmurray, born abt 1831 in ireland (she is my 3 x great grandmother).

I only have the details for Felix & Catherine  from thier daughters Death cert.

On catherines death cert, it states felix as a farmer (deceased).

Just to throw something else into the mix.....

Felix daughter, Catherine, marries a james Duffie, and by 1869 he is dead (i have death cert), but on his death cert, calculating the dates, he would have been born about 1806, yet his wife (catherine) wasnt born until 1831, and wouldnt have been able to marry until 16, which would place the date around 1847, so she would be 16 and james would be about 41!!

So sorry if i have confused you with any of this...but i just cant understand why they would have coupled up at such big age differences!??

Would appreciate any help on locating someinfo about Felix, and also about his daughter Catherine and hopefully a marraige from irish records...

Thanks in advance

Paul

[Milliepede]

This may hinder rather than help but there is a family tree with James Duffy being born Ireland 1820 so how old was he on the death certificate you have? 
It doesn't give a death for him but gives first child born 1845 so a young wife indeed.

Child born Monaghan and there is a marriage there in 1845 but I can't see to whom.

It does have the same parents you have for Catherine but

[paulsplace2009]

Hello

Thanks so much for this.....

Sounds like its on the right tracks, although the dates are mixed up slightly!

Where did you see this tree?

Cheers

Paul

[Milliepede]

Hi Paul

It's on ancestry website. 
2 children listed are Elizabeth 1845 and Annie 1851 if that matches up.

Nothing else on James apart from occupation hawker then furniture dealer.   

[paulsplace2009]

Hello

Thanks again.

I managed to eliminate this tree, as it was my uncle who started it and he has james DOB wrong.

Even though he died in 1869, Glasgow, i cannott find him on any recent census, i.e 1861.

There is one James Duffie, on the 1861 Scottish census, and his DOB and birthplace match up...but how would have he ended up in this place from Glasgow.....

James Duffy
Age: 56
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relationship: Lodger
Gender: Male
Where born: Monaghan, Ireland
Registration number: 411
Registration District: Burntisland
Civil Parish: Burntisland
County: Fife
Address: Black Close
Occupation: Labourer A Mason

[Milliepede]

Have you got wife and children on their own in 1861 to match James being on his own elsewhere?
Presume you have or he wouldn't be missing 

Glasgow to Fife excuse my ignorance is that a long way apart, could he have travelled to find work perhaps.

[paulsplace2009]

Hello

No, i cant find them on the census records, which leads me to believe they were still in ireland at this time.... the first census i have the two daughters (ann and eliza) is the 1881 census.

Thanks

Paul

[Milliepede]

Haven't given up yet.

What details are on the death certificate - is there an address?

[Milliepede]

I see a marriage for Elizabeth Duffie 1865 to John Brown.  That has occupation hawker for James.

the first census i have the two daughters (ann and eliza) is the 1881 census.

Elizabeth is on the 1871 census Scotland with husband and 2 children John 3 Ann 1.