Baker family - Ewhurst, Sussex

[berylm]

Hi                                                                                   
Please, is anyone researching Ewhurst families?

My gt grandmother was Maria Baker,
daughter of Thomas Baker and his wife Mary Crouch
b. 22 June 1815 Ewhurst, Sussex.
(She married William Kennard,  24 Feb 1834 at Brede, Sussex)

Are there any electronic records?

BerylM

[Little Nell]

Hi Beryl,

What sort of records are you looking for?  Do you want to go backwards, forwards?  Find any siblings etc?

Do you have her parents' marriage?  I see they married in 1805.

There are a number of resources which can be used to find these details but not necessarily online.  Obviously the census records are now available through Ancestry but that is a subscription service.  There are some records available online.  Chris has listed thosae he has found on this board:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,317.0.html

I have found other children baptised to Thomas & Mary Baker in Ewhurst, but not Maria    I found Spencer and Samuel (1807 and 1813 respectively).  What else do you know about the family?

Nell

[berylm]

Hi Nell
I am looking for BDM - for the Baker family going backwards.
I would like to find siblings, and if I can, go back another generation or two.
It is quite possible that they moved around.

Last weekend at a family christening - a 3rd or 4th cousin was quizzing me
about gt grandmother Maria, and I realised I knew little about her.
No I don't have her parents marriage. I would appreciate that.
Also,  the other siblings baptisms.
Will then also have a go on the Crouch family.
I can see I will most probably have to go back to the LDS library.

Maria Kennard (nee Baker) was an assisted emigrant to NSW in 1838 - "Lady Nugent". She gave them as her parents, and said her age was 23.
I forget where I got the date from,  it was a long time ago in was researching.

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~Smckelvey/pre1848/First.htm
This is the first chapter of our family tree, and gives a picture of Maria,
most probably taken in 1898 at the time of the Otago 50th anniversary.
(The Free Church Settlement of 1848)
Thanks for your help I really appreciate it.
BerylM

[Little Nell]

Thomas Baker married Mary Crouch 17 July 1805 Ewhurst.

Unfortunately no other information shows in the index.

Possible baptisms for siblings (assuming that they stayed in Ewhurst)

Spencer Baker bapt 20 Dec 1807
Samuel Baker bapt 20 Jun 1813

There is another Ewhurst baptism to a Thomas & Mary Baker:

Edward bapt 30 May 1802

I have no way of knowing if they are connected - sorry.  Thomas Bakers abound in Sussex!
As I say I can't find Maria - I wonder of she was baptised elsewhere and I don't have access to the record?

Since Maria emigrated in 1838 no hope on the census!  Unless her parents stayed behind?

Nell

[berylm]

Hi  Nell
Thank you for that info.
How many Thomas  Bakers were there?

re: where did we get Maria's dates from?
I remembered that I inherited that data from my cousin's who did the first family tree, "The green book"  back in the '60s. They went around the country visiting all the relations. The family will be forever grateful to them.   
They said they visited one of the elder branches, and someone "went into another room" and came back with all this information. They and I, suspect a "Family bible" was the source of the information. 
The other dates have been correct. So, perhaps they moved, and she was baptised in a different parish! 

I have just been looking at the NSW Entitlement Certificate from 1838
Name: Maria Kennard
A native of: Ewehurst Sussex
Parents names: Daughter of Thomas Baker a labourer in Ewehurst and
                          Mary  Crouch his wife
Age on embarkation: Twenty three 22 July 1838
(Her husband was given as twenty five, 23 March 1838.
Turned out to have been bapt. in Rolvenden, not Tenderden
23 April 1813)
I guess therefore that she will be bapt nearby - do you happen to know what villages are closeby?

Beryl

[sillgen]

Hi
Just to put this in some sort of perspective, in 1941 there were 91 males called Thomas Baker in Sussex.    Two of them are in Ewhurst but only youngsters of 13ish.   They may well be connected though. 
You should be able to access an online map which will show you where Ewhurst is and what other villages are near.   It is between Robertsbridge and Northiam and fairly close to Salehurst, Bodiam and Staple Cross.   IGI coverage of those parishes is poor.  The registers will be at Lewes Record Office so you could contact them or you can order the films from your nearest LDS centre and search them there at your leisure.  They are worldwide.
Andrea

[Little Nell]

There is a Thomas Baker who married MaryTownsend in 1790 in Lewes; Thomas Baker who married Mary Boner in 1796 in Southease; Thomas Baker who married Mary Foster in Guestling in 1799; Thomas Baker who married Mary Blundell in Etchingham in 1812.  Then there are the Thomas Bakers who married Ann, Elizabeth, Sarah etc all around the same time.

I wonder if Maria might have been baptised in Kent?  Ewhurst is on the Kent border.

Nell

[berylm]

Hi Nell
Thank you for those.
I am truely amazed what I have discovered this weekend.
Will need to go to the LDS - fortunately for me we have one just up the hill from my home! 
Beryl

[Legacy]

Hello
I have as witnesses to the marriage in 1805 a Samuel Cooper and a Ruth Lexford ( or Luxford). I have been doing the SMITH families of that area and my line is connected to the Baker family of Ewhurst.  Sarah Baker b.1760 ( John & Sarah unk) married 1781 William SMITH at Mountfield.
Their son, John Smith M.1801 in Ewhurst to Charlotte Smith, dau. of Richard & Jane Lavender, born in Ewhurst in 1785.
A correspondent in Oz who has worked with me on the Smiths sent these Baker extracts;
Baker   Ann  Thomas/Mary   bur 18 May 1800   "Ewhurst, Ssx"      
Baker   Ann  Thomas/Mary   c     25 May 1800   "Ewhurst, Ssx"      
Baker   Edmund   Thomas/Mary c   30 May 1802   "Ewhurst, Ssx"   
Baker   Elizabeth   Thomas/Mary c     11 May 1806   "Ewhurst, Ssx"   
Baker   Spencer   Thomas/Mary   c 20 Feb 1807   "Ewhurst, Ssx"   
Baker   Mary Anna  Thomas/Mary   c 10 Sep 1809   "Ewhurst, Ssx"   
Baker   Anna   Thomas/Mary   c 01 Aug 1819   "Ewhurst, Ssx"Laborer
Baker   Aaron   Thomas/Mary   c 02 Jul 1826   "Ewhurst, Ssx"

Hope this helps.