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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:29 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at the marriage date - they married in 1806 - impossible if they were born in the years you give
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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:32 BST (UK) »
yes have looked and looked at a 41 and 51 census which gives that dates so this is her many thanks carole.
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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:45 BST (UK) »
Hi David

So this must be the 2 Census:

1841: Address:  Laggary Offices, Row, Dunbartonshire
James BULLOCH 30, Gardener - Y
Christina BULLOCH 31 - N
Francis BULLOCH 15, Gardener's Apprentice - Y
Janet BULLOCH 14 - Y
Margaret BULLOCH 10 - N
Robert BULLOCH 8 - Y

1851: Address: John Street, Row, Dumbartonshire 
With son John, age 6 born Helensburgh. James BULLOCK is a gardener age 40. Wife Christina is 41.

No son in 1841 named George,  I note...

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George BULLOCH, Slater,  married
Janet McKAY, Warehouse-woman on 11 Sep 1862, London Road
The marriage certificate named George's father as : James BULLOCH, Shoemaker and his mother as Christina BULLOCH ms Erskine

That's quite a shift in occupation - Gardener to Shoemaker.

That  IGI marriage  is here, 1862:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTY9-CMG

Subsequent census show George BULLOCH the slater as being born in Glasgow between 1831-1834

How do you know all the younger people listed in 1841 are children of James & Christina? And for the ones not born in the county, where were they born?

David, I'm concerned you are following the wrong family....

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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:51 BST (UK) »
have traced back throught my grt granfather george bulloch born 1860 in 50 king street carlton glasgow. hope i havent got it wrong regards david.
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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #13 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:52 BST (UK) »
You have given the wrong details

The family you are quoting belong to James Bullock and Christina McDermid who married in 1838.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XTGD-TX6

Here's their son John's baptism 

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYZX-MYD

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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:56 BST (UK) »
really carole now very confused .
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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #15 on: Sunday 26 May 13 00:57 BST (UK) »
George and Janet were already living together as man and wife in 1861:
They're in Calton Glasgow 1861 with a son John age 8 , son George age 3 and daughter Mary age 10 Months.

Sorry David, I think you might have gotten it wrong :'(  - here's a more likely looking family

1841: Gallowgate Street, Glasgow Chalmers, Lanarkshire
James BULLOCH 50, Shoe m J (Shoemaker Journeyman)
Thomas BULLOCH 25, Slatter (Slater)
John BULLOCH 15, Saddlers Apprentice
George BULLOCH 10
Isabella BULLOCH 14

http://www.freecen.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Nothing about George indicated he should belong to the Dumbartonshire family.  The commonality of forenames was all you went on - so hopefully it's been righted before you went too far down the wrong road.  Also goes to show, how important it is to prove with documents where possible.  George's death for example may have been the first key pointer - if he died in Scotland.

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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #16 on: Sunday 26 May 13 01:01 BST (UK) »
thanks for this really do appreciate your help.
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Re: james bulloch and christina erskine,
« Reply #17 on: Sunday 26 May 13 01:04 BST (UK) »
yes george died 1912 stirling.
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