amy & emma are they same people ?

[oldhippyone]

in 1841 census[ misstranscribed as marrison ] i have
emma morrison age 25 with family members
william morrison age 76
elizabeth morrison 65
thomas 15
william 4yr
mary 2yr [ emmas daughter found births ] ]
richard 10month [ amys son found births ]
ann lambe 93
living chester le street durham
1851 census
william morrison age 86
elizabeth in 1841 census died 1848
AMY age 35
william 14yr
mary ann 13 [emmas daughter ]
thomas 9 month
i have baptisim for amy morrison 1815 chester le street parents william and elizabeth i also have baptisim for all other sibblings of amy to same parents
i can not find baptisim of emma
amy had 3 children out of wedlock all died last one burried 1 feb 1851 i believe the childrens father was richard wood who also died befor 1851
i can not find any information on AMY after the 1851 census
EMMA married july 1851 at houghton le spring to george rodgerson and has emma,s father as william
emma married with the name emma and there is no amy as in emma amy on certificate
if emma and amy are same people why would she get married with just the name emma and also amy burried her child just 3 months befor the wedding and also burried the father of her children the same year surely emma and amy are not the same people but why cant i find birth for emma and why cant i find any info on amy after 1851 ? any help is appreciated

[avm228]

From what you say they may well be the same person.

Remember that the usage of names was much more fluid in the 19th century than we are used to.

Amelia/Amy/Emma/Emily/Emilia/Emmeline might be used interchangeably.

Similarly Helena/Helen/Ellen/Eleanor; Jane/Jeannie/Jennie, Mary Ann/Marion/Marianne

and no doubt lots of other examples.

[oldhippyone]

thanks  but amy just lost her potential husband  and father of her children the same in fact just months befor  emma got married if emma and amy are same people

[oldhippyone]

amys children
richard 1841
george 1843
george 1848
emmas children
mary 1838
mary 1840
james 1846
margaret 1850

[Milliepede]

I tend to agree they were the same person in which case she had 7 illegitimate children.  That's quite a lot. 

I wonder why she didn't marry Richard Wood when she had the chance. 

[oldhippyone]

i dont know why she didnt marry richard maybe couldnt for some reason , but im not convinced amy and emma are same people cos on her marriage cerificate it states  says place of birth middle herrington where as amys birth was chester le street i have the baptisim record as all of amys sibblings were born

[andycand]

Hi

I have a relative whose christening, marriage and death certificates all say Amy whereas on all censuses she was Emma.

If Emma married in England then the placename on the marriage certificate would be where she was living when she married and not where she was born.

Andy

[Milliepede]

Yes that's a good point Andy the address on the marriage certificate is only where she was living at that time and may well differ from her birthplace. 

[oldhippyone]

you are probably right about place when she was married .. but it still doesnt explain why she married so quickly after the death of the man of her children .... but  emma and amy probably were the same because i can not find birth of emma and cant find death of amy