Worsley-Taylor -> Worsley of the Laund -> Worsley of Rising Bridge -> ?

[Radcliff]

Hamish I am not one for nit picking but you have Nicholas born 1700
son of James born 1688 , am I miss reading your post,

[BashLad]

My feudal overlords! The Worsley-Taylors of Moreton Hall.

I pay ground rent to the Worsley-Taylor Estate. Don't know anything about them except their solicitors is at Northallerton. If they lived at the Laund that was probably a long time ago - the Laund's best remembered association is with the Bulloughs before their money went to their heads. Gone now, of course, only a few bricks and stones remain of it by a pubic footpath.

[hatfinch]

Thank you all so much for your responses!

@Barbara.H, I do have another James Worsley and a Henry Worsley, both of The Laund, in between H W Worsley(-Taylor)'s father James, and Nicholas Worsley of Rising Bridge. But I will investigate these carefully, as I now rather suspect the notes I was given (see below).

@Radcliff, you're quite right that it makes no sense for Nicholas Worsley's father James to have been born in 1688 given that Nicholas himself was born in 1700. And now that I look at my tree again, I don't have 1688 for James Worsley -- so I'm not sure where I got that idea from. But if Thomas Worsley and Elizabeth Ramsbottom were married in late 1684, it's still unlikely that James was born more than 16 years before Nicholas, so perhaps this whole line is suspect.

@BashLad, what a small world! From your username I would guess you are in Bashall Eaves? Moreton Hall is gone, the Worsley-Taylors have "daughtered out" and none of those daughters (now past child-bearing age) have children, so the estate is now in trust.

[Marco Ghyll Head]

My feudal overlords! The Worsley-Taylors of Moreton Hall.

I pay ground rent to the Worsley-Taylor Estate. Don't know anything about them except their solicitors is at Northallerton. If they lived at the Laund that was probably a long time ago - the Laund's best remembered association is with the Bulloughs before their money went to their heads. Gone now, of course, only a few bricks and stones remain of it by a pubic footpath.

The Estate solicitors are not in Northallerton.  The managing agents are Strutt & Parker in Harrogate and they are the people to address and queries to.

[ikethearmyguy]

St James Haslingden,
12th September 1725
 Nicolas Worssly of Rysen Bridge
Elizabeth Law of Hencroft
Grooms father James Worstly  cloathor, mother Mary
HOW UNUSUAL TO SEE A FATHER NAMED IN AN EARLY REGISTER OF MARRIAGES,
Brides father Denise Law, yeoman, mother Alic,

Radcliff
     I have an Elizabeth Worsley marrying William Taler (Taylor) in Altham in 1740 and wondering if she could be Nicolas' sister? Any idea how to make that connection?

[hatfinch]

     I have an Elizabeth Worsley marrying William Taler (Taylor) in Altham in 1740 and wondering if she could be Nicolas' sister? Any idea how to make that connection?

Do you know any more about this William Taler?

John Taylor of Friar Hall and Broad Oak (born about 1741) had (as far as I know) five children: John (c.1765), James (c.1770), Jennet, Alice and Betsy. James apparently bought Moreton but died without issue and Moreton passed to John (1765)'s son John (1802). That John also died without issue.

Jennet had had two children, Elizabeth and Margaret, and the Taylor estate passed to Elizabeth, who had married a Rev. Richard Edwards and became Elizabeth Edwards-Taylor. She died without issue and her unmarried sister became Margaret Pilling-Taylor. Margaret then left the Taylor name / estate to Henry Wilson Worsley, but I don't know why. If the same Taylor family married the same Worsley family in 1740, perhaps this would go some way towards joining the dots?

[ikethearmyguy]

The only piece of information I know is that William Taylor/Taler and Elizabeth were married in Altham 1740 and had a son named John in 1745 that married Alice Smith in 1770 in All Saints' Church in Wigan. So far as I can piece together William was a miner/collier as was his child and grandchildren so I "assumed" that my Taylors did not come from any type of wealth.