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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 19 December 14 08:53 GMT (UK) »
What parish is it, Wiggy?

It could just be H for Honiton.

PS - possibly husbandsman as well  :-\
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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 19 December 14 09:00 GMT (UK) »
I thinnk you could be right Gadget - why didn't I think of that - (don't answer that)

Record from Holy Trinity Exeter.

This man was married in Exeter too but lived in  - well their children were born in Broadhembury.

If it were for husbandman, you'd think it would be written with a small 'h' wouldn't you - or not.  :-\
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 19 December 14 09:00 GMT (UK) »
Just found a 'Henry' - 2 pages before. It's the same form as yours,  so definitely an H.
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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #12 on: Friday 19 December 14 09:20 GMT (UK) »
It is definitely H. It might indicate a death in 'the House' (workhouse).


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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #13 on: Friday 19 December 14 09:32 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear - that would be sad - but it is interesting!

  - his wife was also buried from Holy Trinity Exeter 5 years earlier - but it wasn't marked with an H after the record. 

Can you think of a reason why the family would travel to Exeter for marriage (1749) and burial if they live quite a distance away?      :-\   Seems odd doesn't it?   

I don't think I've found their births yet, so maybe I will find them having come from there in the first place.  It's a mystery.

  For the sake of argument,  If they weren't in the work house, but were landowners for example, would they be more likely to have their 'happenings' further away from home - which I believe was Broadhembury, where they had their children??

Not dismissing your thought Bookbox - just asking.   ;)

Thanks for your thoughts

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Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #14 on: Friday 19 December 14 11:04 GMT (UK) »
The most common reason for moving from a small parish to a city would be to seek work. Wealthier people would generally have more flexibility in their choice of residence, but many labouring occupations also entailed moving around, following the demand for localised labour -- e.g. in brickfields, canal building, industrial centres etc.

Perhaps the couple met and married in Exeter when they were both working there, and later moved away? Alternatively, one or both of them might have been employed in domestic service by gentry who had property in more than one location (town house, country house).

If it is a workhouse reference (just a possibility), the husband may have been chargeable to that Exeter parish for any number of reasons, not necessarily birth -- e.g. he could have served an apprenticeship there, or been a yearly hired servant there, or served as a parish officer there etc.

Remember also that the workhouse doubled as a hospital and didn't always indicate destitution.

Just a few thoughts.

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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #15 on: Friday 19 December 14 11:15 GMT (UK) »
Broadhembury is only 16 miles (26 km) from Exeter - just a day's walk.
So, not too far away?

Maybe they met at Market?
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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #16 on: Friday 19 December 14 21:25 GMT (UK) »
All interesting thoughts - thank you for those - I will chase up and see if I can come up with any other social records - wills maybe - or something.  ;)

Just been alerted to another reason for moving around - military service -  Found some records stating children baptised sons and daughters of Soldiers - in which case there is a record of which regiment.   
Gaunt, Ransom, McNally, Stanfield, Kimberley. (Tasmania)
Brown, Johnstone, Eskdale, Brand  (Dumfriesshire,  Scotland)
Booth, Bruerton, Deakin, Wilkes, Kimberley
(Warwicks, Staffords)
Gaunt (Yorks)
Percy, Dunning, Hyne, Grigg, Farley (Devon, UK)
Duncan (Fife, Devon), Hugh, Blee (Cornwall)
Green, Mansfield, (Herts)
Cavenaugh, Ransom (Middlesex)
 

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Re: Skills to read records in Devon, please
« Reply #17 on: Friday 19 December 14 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Hi Wiggy

I've gone back in the burial records to 1781-2 and found quite a few Hs, which led me to believe it is more likely to be Bookbox's explanation than Honiton, or whatever.

On the top of the page which starts with 1782 half way down, there is an entry for a Henry Gavot on Oct 5th 1781. It reads:

Henry Gavot from the Hospital.... Oct 5th

Below this are two more entries dittoed, and others following.

So I think that the H is an abbreviation for Hospital.   Here is a bit about the pre-1834, Exeter Poor Law - no mention of a hospital but many were definitely used as such until the 20th Century

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Exeter/

Added a snip.


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