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George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« on: Tuesday 04 February 14 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Hello

According to the 1861 census, my ancestor George Jones, born 1821 and his wife Maria, born 1823 were living in Aston with their children, Julia, Henry (my ancestor), Joseph, Edward, Jane and Walter.

I was wondering if someone could help me find the parents of George Jones, a marriage for George and Maria, death dates and possible marriages for their children.

I know this is asking a lot, but I appreciate any assistance in the matter.

my thanks

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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 04 February 14 10:44 GMT (UK) »
With a surname like Jones you really are asking for too much here.

The ages given in 1861 for George and Maria vary from what is given on the 1851 - on that one George is shown as b.1816 Aston and Maria b.1815 Aston!!   In 1871 it is 1817 and 1821.  That complicates finding their baptisms ever more.

You will need to get the birth certificate of one of their children to establish Maria's maiden name and then look for a likely marriage.

Can only find baptisms for 2 of their children - Edward bp.1/2/1854 and Walter b.21/12/1859, bp.23/4/1861 both at St. Matthew, Duddeston, Birmingham.

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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 04 February 14 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage for Henry

Henry Jones 24 bachelor  brazier Moland?Street father George Jones iron smith
Catharine Hill 22 spinster  Moland?Street father Thomas Hill gun finisher
25 Dec 1871 Bishop Ryder parish church,Birmingham
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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 04 February 14 11:33 GMT (UK) »
After you have received a Birth Cert keep this in mind if name matches;

Marriage Reg FreeBMD, June 1842, Warwick, 16 543
Maria GROVE and George TOMES on same page

F/S.Org has this as George JONES;
George JONES, Father RICHARD Jones
Maria GROVE, Father THOMAS Grove
14 Jun 1842, Church Of Moxhall, Warwick, England

1871 Census George is born c 1817 Birmingham and Maria c 1821 Birmingham

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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 05 February 14 11:37 GMT (UK) »
I think George & Maria Tomes are this couple Trish:
RG10; Piece: 3192; Folio: 69; Page: 9;
For Moxhall read Wroxall.

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Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #5 on: Friday 07 February 14 12:18 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Looks like Julia Jones married Thomas warren Sep 1865 Aston 6d 416
1871 census Bishops Ryder Baggot st
Thomas Warren 30 carter Birmingham
Julia 26 japan stover Macclesfield
Unis? girl 5
Thomas 4
Alice 7mths

1881 Heath mill lane Aston
Thomas Warren  gas lab derby
Julia 35 Macclesfield
Unis  M 15 tin plate worker Birmingham
George T 14
Mary K 9
Rose 6

1891 Dolman st Aston
Thomas 50 gas stoker birmingham
Julia 45 Macclesfield
George  24 lab
Mary r 19 bolt maker
Rosetta 16 errand girl
Georgina 9
Walter 5
1901 Cabo St George has gone and a granddaughter Eunice M simple 9 Birmingham is present.
Thomas Warren died Mar 1906 Aston age 64 6d 215
Julia died Sep 1904 age 60 Aston 6d 226

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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 31 January 15 15:52 GMT (UK) »
Hi

I have received the birth certificate of Walter Jones, George and Maria's son, born in 1860 in Aston.

It gives the maiden name of Maria as Congrave, however there is no marriage for a George Jones and Maria Congrave or Congreave

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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 31 January 15 20:42 GMT (UK) »
I can't see a birth or marriage for Maria & can't see her pre 1851 either.
She may have been born under a different name.
Warks:Ashford;Cadby;Clarke;Clifford;Cooke Copage;Easthope;
Edmonds;Felton;Colledge;Lutwyche;Mander(s);May;Poole;Withers.
Staffs.Edmonds;Addison;Duffield;Webb;Fisher;Archer
Salop:Easthope,Eddowes,Hoorde,Oteley,Vernon,Talbot,De Neville.
Notts.Clarke;Redfearne;Treece.
Som.May;Perriman;Cox
India Kane;Felton;Cadby
London.Haysom.
Lancs.Gay.
Worcs.Coley;Mander;Sawyer.
Kings of Wessex & Scotland
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Re: George Jones 1821 and Maria - 1861 census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 31 January 15 21:09 GMT (UK) »
I was pondering that she was born under a different name, but it doesn't give any indication on her childrens birth certificates