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Re: st peters de beauvoir square islington
« Reply #27 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 06:56 BST (UK) »

I had 2 sheets of paper from Barnardo's: the first a letter about Francis Jenkins who went to Canada.


You probably have all this info. about Francis but posting just in case..............

Francis Jenkins Age:   13
Departure 6 Aug 1913
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Date of Arrival:   14 Aug 1913 Vessel: Tunisian
Port of Arrival:   Quebec
Under the auspices of Mc Phersons Homes in the charge of Mrs McPherson Merry

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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 07:39 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much- I didn't have anything more than the vessel and date.
That's really great!
Jenkins-Hackney(Tottenham),Colchester,Suffolk.
Gamble,Webb,Hall-Norfolk.
Brokenshire,Burt,Mitchell,Chenoweth- Cornwall.
Percival-Northumberland.
Emslie-Aberdeen,Christie,Dempster-Cupar (Fife).
Tyler-Bristol,Adelaide.
Harris-Guernsey.

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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 08:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much- I didn't have anything more than the vessel and date.
That's really great!
Told you things would look up.................Have a good day :)
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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday 13 May 14 11:54 BST (UK) »
You too! 8)
Jenkins-Hackney(Tottenham),Colchester,Suffolk.
Gamble,Webb,Hall-Norfolk.
Brokenshire,Burt,Mitchell,Chenoweth- Cornwall.
Percival-Northumberland.
Emslie-Aberdeen,Christie,Dempster-Cupar (Fife).
Tyler-Bristol,Adelaide.
Harris-Guernsey.


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« Reply #31 on: Monday 13 October 14 23:42 BST (UK) »
personally I think Barnardos researchers withold too much info & don't always give out the correct info anyway...One poor lady went to her grave thinking she was someone she was not!!! Likely a guess as this person was trying to do.

There is a Fred Jenkins who looks to have been a Home Child...a farm labourer in 1921 Ontario, but the dates don't match up ( Plus Dashwood is in Huron County, but the lads were sometimes moved around ) .. http://www.rootschat.com/links/01brm/ ( hit image to see more)
(If that information was correct that he'd changed his name...or had they found this lad and said it was he?)
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Re: st peters de beauvoir square islington
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 14 October 14 11:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much! I think that there is a reasonable chance that this is him. I will investigate more. 2 days ago I found him as Fred on the 1911C. It was obvious really; I just hadn't taken on board that he had probably always been called Fred.
Although the dates aren't quite right, there may be a clue for me in the 1908, as perhaps this is the year his mother died, the trigger for his eventual move to Canada. More to work on.....
 I have had both very good and very average responses from Barnardos in my time......!
Jenkins-Hackney(Tottenham),Colchester,Suffolk.
Gamble,Webb,Hall-Norfolk.
Brokenshire,Burt,Mitchell,Chenoweth- Cornwall.
Percival-Northumberland.
Emslie-Aberdeen,Christie,Dempster-Cupar (Fife).
Tyler-Bristol,Adelaide.
Harris-Guernsey.

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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 14 October 14 22:27 BST (UK) »
I have some doubts about the lad being yours, although it's true the lads often played with information just for the fun of it, I think.... so good to keep an open mind, just don't pin your hat to anyone yet until you get some real proof.

This marriage of a Francis in Ontario had no parents listed, nor places of birth, and I could not see them on 1921 to help with more info, so darn, but will post anyway in case more turns up.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/278B-VTW

There is this B.C. death which also is interesting if you have the birth date to compare?
To move or retire to the beautiful West Coast was very common.
Frederick Francis Jenkins Death New Westminster, British Columbia (resided Burnaby)
13 May 1976  Age 76    Birth Date 28 Feb 1900, England
his daughter gave the information, Father Jenkins...nothing else known about parents
Spouse 's name Bernice Johanna Zacharias .... More on image:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12699-110249-33?cc=1538285
 
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Re: st peters de beauvoir square islington
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 09:36 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much for your helpful suggestions.
I couldn't find a suitable death last night(!) , so 1908 may well be a red herring, but I live in hope  :D .
The marriage wouldn't fit in with the previous 1921 C, unless recorded inaccurately, so those 2 are probably different people, as you suspected.

The death is maybe more promising. From Barnardos I have the birth as 28th Jan 1900, so definitely time to send for the b certificate!
Do you think that the daughter's name is M A Jenser?
Thanks for helping.
Jenkins-Hackney(Tottenham),Colchester,Suffolk.
Gamble,Webb,Hall-Norfolk.
Brokenshire,Burt,Mitchell,Chenoweth- Cornwall.
Percival-Northumberland.
Emslie-Aberdeen,Christie,Dempster-Cupar (Fife).
Tyler-Bristol,Adelaide.
Harris-Guernsey.

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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 15 October 14 12:35 BST (UK) »
The thing that is tough is that we do not have all records available, and if he did move to another Province, we do not have access to each one. ( Privacy laws in each Province makes searching in the 20th century a lot harder)  But it would maybe be a good idea to get all the birth certs in case there is another clue in there.

I am giving you what I find (as making & keeping notes for all searches was a nightmare...) but of course they may all be red herrings...
re: daughter's surname...I think it is more likely Jensen
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