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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 16 October 14 23:30 BST (UK) »
Thank you so much Spades and Lucy2. I did have some of this info. I now have some great leads to look into.
Needham (UK-Ire-NZ-Aust [Vic,WA]), Haggitt (NZ-Aust), Dwyer(Ire-UK-Aust), Ingwersen (Aust, UK, Ire)

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 16 October 14 23:40 BST (UK) »

These births NZ

1869 / 29750 Hilda Emily Newry           Emily / Joseph Bullock
1877 / 14391 Frederick John Stanley    Emily Annie / Joseph Bullock
1875 / 13229 Charles Augustus Trevor  Emily Annie / Joseph M 
1879 / 15502 Arthur Montague             Emily Annie / Joseph Bullock

Can you give the full names and birth details of the other children please?

Less common given names are often family names, and useful for finding origins.

You might expect to see him give his own name, Joseph, or Bullock, to a son or daughter?

What BDM documents do you have please for this family?



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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #11 on: Friday 17 October 14 01:22 BST (UK) »
Hi Ned

I see that a New Zealand newspaper carried a notice of their wedding - unfortunately though, it only names the father of Emily.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

"Lyttelton Times" - 25 May 1868 - page 2

NEEDHAM - HAGGITT

*   Just out of interest, who were the witnesses named on the 1868 marriage cert ?

   ~  Lu

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #12 on: Friday 17 October 14 01:34 BST (UK) »
A search of Papers Past (search phrase: joseph bullock needham) finds 11 results. He is described as a 'Gentleman' of Invercargill in 1863.

In 1869 he was discharged by the Supreme Court (at Christchurch?). Insufficient evidence on a charge of forgery. Involved him having money belonging to the Trust and Agency Company.
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

Spades


Just as a follow up to above link given by Spades, you may like to view these too (at the Paperspast website) ?

"Wellington Independent" - 6 March 1869 page 5 - Latest from the Provinces
[Relates to the trial and imprisonment of Emily Ann NEEDHAM.  The case against Joseph was dismissed. ]

"Star" (Christchurch, Canterbury) - 3 March 1869 - Supreme Court {{Search on : "Emily Ann NEEDHAM"}}.

[There are reports in other NZ newspapers about the 1869 case also - in one instance Joseph has been referred to as "Robert b. NEEDHAM" in error. ]

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #13 on: Friday 17 October 14 01:47 BST (UK) »

These births NZ

1869 / 29750 Hilda Emily Newry           Emily / Joseph Bullock

Less common given names are often family names, and useful for finding origins.

You might expect to see him give his own name, Joseph, or Bullock, to a son or daughter?


Death notice of a small child "Clara Newry NEEDHAM" - d/o F.M. & H. NEEDHAM at Renmark. S.A.
See TROVE (Australian newspapers website) - "South Australian Register" - 7 July 1891 - p. 3


* Any idea where this "Newry" name comes from ?   [Maybe it's from the HAGGITT family side though ?   ]

EDIT:  Will leave the above "Clara Newry NEEDHAM" info here BUT ... having found further info on her family (- her father was Frederick Miller NEEDHAM b. 1840  Devon, ENG, the s/o a clergyman Richard William NEEDHAM), I think it is simply coincidence that these NEEDHAM girls share the name "Newry".

   ~  Lu

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #14 on: Friday 17 October 14 01:52 BST (UK) »
Again at Paperspast (NZ)

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/

"Daily Southern Cross" (Auckland) - 9 December 1862 - page 2 / column 5

An advertisement for cargo ex the vessels "Ida Zeigler" and "Romulus", bears the name Joseph B. NEEDHAM, Fraser's Buildings, Auckland.   Maybe your man  ???

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #15 on: Friday 17 October 14 01:56 BST (UK) »
Looking for the parents of Joseph Bullock Needham, born circa 1835 (country ?) my gg father, died 1913 Perth WA, married Emily Annie Haggitt 1868 Christchurch NZ, Children: Mary Ethel, Hilda Maud, Percy, Charles Augustus, Frederick, Arthur Noel (my gfather), Gertrude Anne, George.

Hi Ned ... can you clarify please, was "Arthur Noel" the same person as "Arthur Montague NEEDHAM" (birth reg. in NZ 1879) ??

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #16 on: Friday 17 October 14 03:53 BST (UK) »
Marriage Cert Information:
Date - 23 May 1868
Location - St Michael's Church - Christchurch
Minister - Henry Jacobs
Witness's - Edward Preston - Solicitor, Christchurch and Sarah Newman
Both listed as full names, Joseph Bullock Needham and Emily Annie Haggitt
Joseph's job listed as Accountant
Needham (UK-Ire-NZ-Aust [Vic,WA]), Haggitt (NZ-Aust), Dwyer(Ire-UK-Aust), Ingwersen (Aust, UK, Ire)

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Re: Needham family New Zealand and Australia
« Reply #17 on: Friday 17 October 14 03:57 BST (UK) »
Thanks for marriage info, Ned.