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Re: census look up please
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 13 January 13 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Dinah's possible parents in 1861

Tregibbon, Aberdare RG9/4069 folio 90 pg 12
John Nicholas head mar 70 labourer b. Pembs, Meline
Mary wife 70 Carms, Llanfyrnach
John son unm 27 miner b. Llanfyrnach
David son 10 b. Aberdare
Thomas Evans lodger 25 miner b. Carmarthenshire
relationships are meant to be to head of house. Not sure that David is son of John senior.

Brother Benjamin is at RG9/4069 folio 89 pg 10 in 1861 and RG10/5405 folio 67 pg 33 in 1871
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: census look up please
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 13 January 13 13:44 GMT (UK) »
I think this may be the parents of your John (as already given by Osprey)

1861 Wales census
Glamorgan, Ystraddyfodwg, Treherbert

Benj JONES 40, smith, b Glamorgan
Dinah JONES 33, b Llanfwrnach,
William JONES 3, b Glamorgan Ystrad
Elizabeth JONES 8 months, b Glamorgan Ystrad

Unfortunately there are too many John JONES registered in Merthyr Tydfil in 1863 to have any hope of finding exactly which one is yours.

Continuing on from this - on another thread you thought his mother's surname may have been NICHOLESS OR MOHOLESS??

1851, Glamorgan, Aberdare, Llwydcoed
John Nicholas   61, labourer
Mary Nicholas   60
Benjamin Nicholas   25
John Nicholas   18
Dinah Nicholas   22 b Llanfwrnach, Pembrokeshire, Wales
Thomas Nicholas   8
Margret Nicholas   5
David Edmunds   11 Mo
Henry Phillips   24

There is an online tree which suggests that these two census entries are the correct family.  However, there is no documentary evidence cited, nor can I see a marriage for Benjamin Jones and Dinah Nicholas.  The tree does give John's name as the couple's third child also b Ystraddyfodwg, 1862.

The tree owner's profile says she lives in Aberdare so she may have good access to local records.

Sometimes the Welsh place names can be helpful - having Dinah's birthplace with it's unusual spelling has been very handy!

I'm happy to type up more but it's way past the witching hour here.   ::) Will return tomorrow.

Judith
 
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Re: census look up please
« Reply #20 on: Sunday 13 January 13 20:04 GMT (UK) »
the details of the Nicholas family from Llanfyrnach including baptisms are on the linked thread in reply 17

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/PEM/Llanfyrnach/

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 13 January 13 22:30 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Osprey, I missed some of the earlier information as there were a number of couples/families mentioned and I didn't have time to go to the linked info.  :-[  It was 1 in the morning when I came onto this Board to ask a question myself and got side-tracked.  ::)

Cheers, Judith
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« Reply #22 on: Monday 14 January 13 10:19 GMT (UK) »
no probs, it was just to save you typing out info that has already been given to camer.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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« Reply #23 on: Monday 14 January 13 13:12 GMT (UK) »
 ;) Might be able to get onto my own question - but not till tomorrow now  ::)  Judith
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