Ruth and Titus Patmore, where are you?

[wivenhoe]

Can you name  the sons and daughters that you have identified to be the children of Clement PATMORE and Sarah PATMORE nee BROADHURST please. It might be possible to find the missing Ruth and Titus through death notices of brothers and sisters.

Champion
PATMORE Clement 38 carpenter Protestant    Northumberland
PATMORE Sarah  36 dressmaker
PATMORE Clement 13
PATMORE Edwin 12
PATMORE Titus 8
PATMORE Idodor 3                sons
PATMORE Ruth 5                   daughter 

BDM NSW births
V1843686 54 / 1843  PATMORE Jabez          Clement / Sarah
V1846580 55 / 1846  PATMORE Emily          Clement / Sarah

Census 1841    at Wolstanton Staffordshire
PATMORE Clement   35  carpenter
PATMORE Sarah       35
PATMORE Clement    10   brick m
PATMORE Edwin       10
PATMORE Titus         8
PATMORE Ruth         5
PATMORE Ezra         3
PATMORE Leah         5 / 12

[sparrett]

Can you name  the sons and daughters that you have identified to be the children of Clement PATMORE and Sarah PATMORE nee BROADHURST please. It might be possible to find the missing Ruth and Titus through death notices of brothers and sisters.

Champion
PATMORE Clement 38 carpenter Protestant    Northumberland
PATMORE Sarah  36 dressmaker
PATMORE Clement 13
PATMORE Edwin 12
PATMORE Titus 8
PATMORE Idodor 3                sons
PATMORE Ruth 5                   daughter 

BDM NSW births
V1843686 54 / 1843  PATMORE Jabez          Clement / Sarah
V1846580 55 / 1846  PATMORE Emily          Clement / Sarah

Census 1841    at Wolstanton Staffordshire
PATMORE Clement   35  carpenter
PATMORE Sarah       35
PATMORE Clement    10   brick m
PATMORE Edwin       10
PATMORE Titus         8
PATMORE Ruth         5
PATMORE Ezra         3
PATMORE Leah         5 / 12

So one daughter when they arrived and another born in Aust.

How many daughters do you believe were living in 1892?

This is an In memoriam for the mother Sarah PATMORE

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/98476800?searchTerm="sarah patmore"&searchLimits=l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*

Inserted by her sons and daughters

Sue

There was another brother Joseph

Death
8637/1914 PATMORE    Joseph
Parents   Clement& Sarah
At NEWCASTLE   

Death notice

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/137304304?searchTerm="joseph patmore"&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd|||frommm|||fromyyyy=1914|||todd|||tomm|||toyyyy=1914|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

Aged 73 at death
Sue
 

[ShaunJ]

The NSW Gazette records an unclaimed letter at Sydney GPO for "Patmore, Edward or Titus" in 1880 (page 6475)

[wivenhoe]

These children to Titus PATMORE and Rose
V18851 53 / 1855                  PATMORE Joseph
V18572108 44A / 1857           PATMORE Rosannah
3714 / 1857                          PATMORE Rose               St George
7386 / 1858                          PATMORE  Sarah J          Goulburn

marriage
1641 / 1878 PATMORE Rosanne m. TATHAM Alfred Philip                  Newtown

death
7641 / 1946  TATHAM Rosanne          PATMORE                                 Ashfield

If this is Rosannah, daughter of Titus and Rose, the marriage certificate should mention father's name and maybe added note such as (dec).

[hollzy]

How many daughters do you believe were living in 1892?

This is an In memoriam for the mother Sarah PATMORE

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/98476800?searchTerm="sarah patmore"&searchLimits=l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*

Inserted by her sons and daughters

Sue

Hi Sue, To my calculations there would have been two living daughters in 1892.
Emily 1846-1935
and Lydia 1849-1943  Thanks Hollzy.  PS. Oh! and maybe the missing Ruth?

[hollzy]

Can you name  the sons and daughters that you have identified to be the children of Clement PATMORE and Sarah PATMORE nee BROADHURST please. It might be possible to find the missing Ruth and Titus through death notices of brothers and sisters.

Champion
PATMORE Clement 38 carpenter Protestant    Northumberland
PATMORE Sarah  36 dressmaker
PATMORE Clement 13
PATMORE Edwin 12
PATMORE Titus 8
PATMORE Idodor 3                sons
PATMORE Ruth 5                   daughter 

BDM NSW births
V1843686 54 / 1843  PATMORE Jabez          Clement / Sarah
V1846580 55 / 1846  PATMORE Emily          Clement / Sarah

Census 1841    at Wolstanton Staffordshire
PATMORE Clement   35  carpenter
PATMORE Sarah       35
PATMORE Clement    10   brick m
PATMORE Edwin       10
PATMORE Titus         8
PATMORE Ruth         5
PATMORE Ezra         3
PATMORE Leah         5 / 12

So one daughter when they arrived and another born in Aust.

How many daughters do you believe were living in 1892?

This is an In memoriam for the mother Sarah PATMORE

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/98476800?searchTerm="sarah patmore"&searchLimits=l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*

Inserted by her sons and daughters

Sue

There was another brother Joseph

Death
8637/1914 PATMORE    Joseph
Parents   Clement& Sarah
At NEWCASTLE   

Death notice

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/137304304?searchTerm="joseph patmore"&searchLimits=exactPhrase|||anyWords|||notWords|||l-textSearchScope=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||fromdd|||frommm|||fromyyyy=1914|||todd|||tomm|||toyyyy=1914|||l-word=*ignore*%7C*ignore*|||sortby

Aged 73 at death
Sue

Hi Sue, I believe the following is a list of children to Clement and Sarah.
Emma died at sea.
Clement Levi jnr.
Edwin
Titus
Ruth
Isodor/Ezra/Joseph is the same person. Isodor on the shipping list, ,Ezra on his MCert
and Ezra Joseph later in his life.
Leah died at sea
Jabez born NSW
Emily born NSW
Lydia born NSW
Thanks Hollzy.

[hollzy]

The NSW Gazette records an unclaimed letter at Sydney GPO for "Patmore, Edward or Titus" in 1880 (page 6475)

Thank you, Thank you, I had the information Edward or Titus Patmore, 1880 Government gazette, and I  couldn't work out what it was...great. So it was an unclaimed letter! hollzy

[hollzy]

These children to Titus PATMORE and Rose
V18851 53 / 1855                  PATMORE Joseph
V18572108 44A / 1857           PATMORE Rosannah
3714 / 1857                          PATMORE Rose               St George
7386 / 1858                          PATMORE  Sarah J          Goulburn

marriage
1641 / 1878 PATMORE Rosanne m. TATHAM Alfred Philip                  Newtown




death
7641 / 1946  TATHAM Rosanne          PATMORE                                 Ashfield

If this is Rosannah, daughter of Titus and Rose, the marriage certificate should mention father's name and maybe added note such as (dec).

Thank you, Much appreciated,I will have to get a couple of certs. 

[sparrett]

These children to Titus PATMORE and Rose
V18851 53 / 1855                  PATMORE Joseph
V18572108 44A / 1857           PATMORE Rosannah
3714 / 1857                          PATMORE Rose               St George
7386 / 1858                          PATMORE  Sarah J          Goulburn

marriage
1641 / 1878 PATMORE Rosanne m. TATHAM Alfred Philip                  Newtown

death
7641 / 1946  TATHAM Rosanne          PATMORE                                 Ashfield

If this is Rosannah, daughter of Titus and Rose, the marriage certificate should mention father's name and maybe added note such as (dec).

Of course , then again, Rosanna may have had no knowledge of her father's death or otherwise, having been placed in the Randwick Institution with her brother Joseph after her mother died.

Sue