Llanelli - Vaughan

[maddison]

Hello
Trying to find death for a Samuel Vaughan and also births for his two sons, Moses Vaughan b/1827 and James Vaughan b/1826. Believe their Parents, Samuel Vaughan & Ann Jones m/Llanelli, June 1821. Ann Vaughan & two sons appears 1841 census as head of household in Ashton under Lyne. Can't find the family after 1841. 
Appreciate any help.
Maddison

[osprey]

if you can't find them after 1841, how do you know where they came from?

The 1821 marriage for Samuel & Ann is submitted by an LDS member, not extracted from local records. Also, it's Llanelly, Breconshire, not the one in Carmarthenshire. The marriage doesn't appear in the extracted batch for the parish M081291.

There appears to be a baptism for Moses in Ashton under Lyne
Moses bp 14/10/1827 IGI extracted batch C133061 for Stamford Street Wesleyan, Ashton under Lyne, son of Samuel & Ann.
On the same day, there's the baptism of Elizabeth, dau of George & Mary Ann Vaughan 

[osprey]

possible death for Samuel

Samuel Vaughan march qtr 1838 Ashton & Oldham vol 20 pg 13

possible marriage for Moses june qtr 1854 Ashton vol 8d pg 746

[maddison]

Hello Osprey
Thanks for info re Llanelli in Breconshire.  Didn’t realise there were two.  Yes, the mrg I found was on LDS. 
Thanks for info on Moses’ marriage – have checked freebmd for Moses’ marriage – two options for his wife – Alice Goddard or Bridget McCarter – but can’t find them on the freecen for 1851/61/71 or 1881 census.
Checked IGI for the death of Samuel Vaughan in March 1838 – this seems to be a child baptised in Oct 1837, & died 1838.
Believe Samuel is brother of Ann Vaughan, [born Nenagh, Ireland] dau of Dennis & Ann Vaughan, who m/John Latimer [a weaver] in Stanwix, 1819. Have also been trying to find deaths for Dennis & Ann Vaughan. Have searched lots of UK/Irish/Welsh indexes.   They've just disappeared somewhere in the indexes.
Maddison 

[osprey]

there's no complete index before civil registration, so you probably need to check parish records. NBI is far from complete.

[maddison]

Hi Osprey
Yes, you're probably right - can't find them on the freereg - was hoping to find death for Samuel and/or remarriage for the widow, Ann -  will just have to keep looking.
Maddison