Robert Mcdougal 1873-1959

[Janette]

This is the previous thread

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=646222.msg4929384#msg4929384

Cheers Janette

[minniehaha]

Hi Angib,

You have said that you have a lot of information about Robert McDougall. I think it would be beneficial if you could share some of this with us.

Do you know if Robert's wife came to New Zealand? What was her name? On another forum you indicated that children may have been born here. Can you provide some names please? [By PM, if you think there is a chance that they may still be alive.]

What information do you have which leads you to believe that Robert arrived in New Zealand around 1911-1912?

You state that Robert died in New Zealand in 1959. Do you have proof of this? Or what leads you to believe it was this particular year?

Any snippets of information may help us to help you.........

Minniehaha.

[Janette]

This may be the death you refer to but it is spelt with a double L

1959/33570   McDougall    Robert    90Y

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

That chap is buried in Wanganui

McDOUGALL, Robert    
aged 90       
Warrant    2323    
Residence    5 Mitchell St
Occupation    Retired    
Date of Burial    16/09/1959
Officiating Minister    Rev Orange    
Funeral Co-ordinator    Dempsey & Sons
Location    Plot 162 Public Lawn/A/3

This lady is appears to be in the same plot and the address is the same

MCDOUGALL, Letitia    
aged 88       
Warrant    1394    
Residence    5 Mitchell St
Occupation    Married    
Date of Burial    28/05/1956
Officiating Minister    Rev Orange    
Funeral Co-ordinator    Dempsey & Sons
Location    Plot 161-162* Public Lawn/A/3    

Cheers Janette

[Janette]

The above couple married in 1894,so maybe not your chap although that is the only Robert McDougall death that I can see in 1959
marriage
1894/3040   Letitia    Green to   Robert    McDougall

As Minniehaha said,I think you need to give us as much info as you can 

Cheers Janette

[angib]

Hi Guys  Thankyou for trying to help.  This is everything I have to date.
Robert Mcdougall 20/10/1873 Kirkcudbrightshire Scotland.
  Parents James and Agnes Mcdougall (nee Rutherford)
Met a Mary Elder and had a child Robert Mcdougall jnr   (not Married)
 Born Dec/1904 Hexham Northumberland England Baptised New Abbey 1905 RC
!911 census shows both Roberts as living with James and Agnes in Troqueer Dumfries Scotland.

My Grandfather (Rbt Jnr) told me that  his father left him and went to live in New Zealand when he about 6 so as on census 1911 Rbt senior probably left 1911/12  The only time he was ever heard of again was when a letter arrived stating that Rbt Jnr had inherited a share in a sheep farm with his 2 brothers. Rbt Jnr declined it and sadly threw the letter away. He wanted nothing to do with his father as he felt he had been abandoned.  That's all I have

[angib]

My uncle has told me the letter arrived and said Rbt Snr died 1959  I guess it could be worth searching for a few years either side of that.  I have no idea of the other sons names or where he lived   Thanks

[minniehaha]

Hello,

Because of the one hundred year cut off point, births registered approx. after today in 1914 do not appear yet on the NZBDM on line index, so we don't have much leeway between this and Robert's possible arrival in this country around 1911 to find the two McDougall boys born here.

There are only two male births with a Robert McDougall , (one in 1911, the other in 1912) as father and neither are possibilities. Nothing appearing under the surname with only one "l" either.

Minniehaha.

[Beg Clonrode...]

... born in 1873, emigrated to NZ around 1911/2 and died there in 1959. Owned a sheep farm...

Hello...

Could 1959 actually be 1949.

There is a Robert MacDOUGALL b.1872-ish d.1949 buried at Mangatainoka Cemetery. He was a farmer married to an Alice.

Tararua District cemetery search http://www.tararuadc.govt.nz/Living_Here/Community_Facilities/Cemeteries?id=34

He is possibly the Robert McDOUGALL who married an Alice FROUDE in 1913

James Froude MacDOUGALL b.1916 d.1981 is most likely their son. Maybe named after James, Robert's father.

1981/25964 - MACDOUGALL, James Froude - d.o.b 14 April 1916

There is also a John Froude MacDOUGALL b.1914 d.1975 buried at Mangatinoka. Maybe another son.

1975/48852 - MACDOUGALL, John Froude - d.o.b 11 November 1914

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His parents were James and Agnes nee Rutherford

For what it's worth, the NSW BDM website lists a 1957 death for a Robert McDOUGALL, son of John and Agnes.

John and James are often interchangeable. Same goes for Australia and New Zealand when you're on the other side of the world.

Maybe ask on the Aussie board for help in finding a burial record.

Regards
Beg