Hayes of Carrigatoher Tipperary

[Aussie1947]

Hi from Australia,

Today I purchased the death certificate of my GGGM who died at Smythesdale in the Colony of Victoria in 1870 aged 28.

Prior to her marriage in 1862 to Adam Young her name was Catherine Hayes the daughter of Elizabeth Hayes and John Hayes (farmer) and her place of birth was Carrigatoher Tipperary Ireland.  Catherine would have been born around 1842.

Catherine would have migrated to Victoria Australia around 1857 and I have been told that other siblings including Margaret Hayes, Michael Hayes, Edward Hayes and Bridget Hayes migrated as well.  I understand that Catherine's mother Elizabeth migrated as well.

I'm looking for any information on the John and Elizabeth Hayes family at Carrigatoher from early to mid 1800s.

I hope I have the spelling for the village correct.
 
Regards  Gerry

[shanew147]

There are a few different places in Tipperary named Carrigatogher - they are townlands, rather than villages. A townland is the smallest division of land.

see the townland database at : www.thecore.com/seanruad

I'm not sure why there are three sub-divisions shown - Abbot, Harding & Ryan,  but they seem to the near to each other or possibly adjacent.

Do you know what religion your Hayes family were ?



Shane

[Aussie1947]

Shane,

Thanks for the prompt reply and information on the townlands.

From Catherine's marriage certificate they were married by a catholic minister.

There is no religion stated on Catherine's death certificate but on her husband's in 1880 it is C of E.

I would guess that Catherine may have been Catholic.

Gerry

[shanew147]

I dont see a Carrigatogher in Co. Tipperary on modern maps, but based on the Registration District (Nenagh) and the Civil Parish (Burgesbeg) - found a possible general location :

 Nenagh to Burgesbeg

The civil parish of Burgesbeg seems to be part of the RC parish of Youghal Arra - see : Youghal Arra RC Parish   (Irish Times)  Click on on the link below the details to show the civil parishes included, then click on Burgesbeg to show the townlands.

p.s. Is there a maiden name given for Elizabeth or does the record just state John and Elizabeth Hayes ?


Shane

[Aussie1947]

The marriage certificate says father John and mother Elizabeth Quinley.

Gerry

[annclare]

Carrigatogher can be found about 4 miles south west of Nenagh town just off the main Nenagh Limerick road. The townland is subdivided in three  Abbott - Harding and Ryan. See map for location

http://www.property.ie/property-for-sale/Carrigatoher-Nenagh-Co-Tipperary/392333/

annclare

[Aussie1947]

Annclare,

Thanks for the information,  I have now found that in 1851 there were 6 Hayes families at Ryan which may look promising. 

Gerry

[stonepegger]

Quigley or Quinn would have been more usual names in those parts rather than Quinley.

[Aussie1947]

stonepegger,

Thanks for the reply and information and you are spot on.  I have carried out more research and believe that her name was Bridget Quigley and married John Hayes on 7th Feb 1823 at Nengah.  From an inquest into her daughters death (Catherine Young, nee Hayes) in 1870 at Smythesdale Victoria mention is made of her mother living nearby which meant that Bridget had migrated as well, don't know about her husband John Hayes.

Regards
Gerry