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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #27 on: Thursday 25 March 10 20:16 GMT (UK) »
Hi it's me again.  I just thought I would let you now that I have again been on to Gateshead R.O.

I e-mailed them about a Mary Mulligan b. Dec 1901 in Gateshead hoping that she would be Charles sister but once again her mother was not registered as Margaret.

Back to square one again.

Barbara.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #28 on: Monday 03 May 10 20:18 BST (UK) »
Hi Monica,

 just a quick note to say sorry for not being in touch for such a long time.  I have kept looking at all the information that you kindly found out for me.

The more I have looked at it the more I think you have the right family.  I have spent quite a bit of money on Scotlands people but have got absolutely nowhere ( maybe I am not looking properly).   I have looked up all the streets that were on the different census and they all seem to be near each other so looks hopeful but I still cannot find any birth, marriage or death records for any of the family. 

Thank you so much for all the help you have given.

Barbara.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #29 on: Monday 03 May 10 22:36 BST (UK) »
Hi Barbara

It is a battle with this family isn't it!

Right, I have come at it again afresh with clearish mind....I haven't looked at again Margaret's missing years from the likely entry with family in 1881 up to the 1901 census...she's still AWOL for those years.....

I do think we have her family in Edinburgh, but it's a bit of a mish-mash on the records although I think I have now found most of the birth records for the children on IGI.

Just to recap:

We have Mary Grant as likely mother for Margaret. From her death cert. in 1886, her parents showed as Alexader Grant and Mary Fraser. Mary's birth shows on IGI on 11 FEB 1830 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh.

Also from her DC, we have a first marriage to a Joseph Inglis which shows on 20 JUL 1849 Saint Cuthberts, Edinburgh (father Alexander which matches the death entry and birth above).

Two children show to them post the start of official registration in 1855:

1. FLORA INGLIS Birth: 17 SEP 1855 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh...looks to have died in 1856
2. JOHN INGLIS Birth: 24 MAY 1857 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh

There is a likely death for Joseph Inglis in 1859 in Edinburgh.

I think this is the family in 1851/61:

1851:

Joseph Engles 22, rope spinner b. Edinburgh
Mary Engles 21 b. Edinburgh
Mary Grant    67 mother in law b. Highlands, North

Address: 24 Kelley Brae, Edinburgh St Cuthberts

1861 (the one I posted before is wrong):

Ellen Clark 30, Sempstress b. Edinburgh
Rosa Ann Clark 7 daughter b. Edinburgh
Mary Inglis 31, sister in law, Sempstress b. Edinburgh
John Inglis 3 nephew b. Edinburgh

Address: 9 Trunk Close, Canongate Edinburgh

These were the census entries we already had for later years:

1871:

John Malhen 40 shoemaker b. Ireland
Mary Malhen 39
John Malhen 13
Alexander Malhen 9
Ellen Malhen 5
Marget Malhen 2

Address: 33 Saint Mary St, Canongate, Edinburgh

1881:

John Mallichar 55, Slipper Maker b. Ireland
Mary Mallichar 51 washerwoman, b. Edinburgh
Ellen Mallichar 14 lace spinner b. Edinburgh
Maggie Mallichar 12 b. Edinburgh
Andrew Mallichar 10 b. Edinburgh
John Inglis 4, grandson b. Edinburgh

Address: 4 Niddry Street, Canongate, Edinburgh

We then had John Mallichan living with a 'wife' Margeret in 1891 although I can't find that marriage on SP.

We also have the marriage of a John Malaghan (as spelt on SP) and a Mary Grant in 1875 in Canongate -have you looked at this to see what it says?

I'll continue on a next post with possible births...

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #30 on: Monday 03 May 10 22:53 BST (UK) »
Hard to say when Mary Grant met and began living with John Mallighan and whether he was the father of all the children who show as born post 1861.

From the children we have on the censuses and trying to find their birth entries through IGI:

The Inglis children are quite straightforward and are posted above.

Alexander b. 1862, I think this might be his entry:

ALEXANDER GRIEVE Birth: 30 APR 1861 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh - mother Mary Grant, no father.

HELEN GRANT Birth: 08 FEB 1866 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh - mother Mary Grant, no father.

ANDREW INGLIS Birth: 24 APR 1871 Edinburgh - mother Mary Inglis, no father. I am wondering whether Mary registered under her married name (still not married to John Mallaghan).

Now on to Margaret who is still proving super elusive!

The nearest I came to was this entry:

MARGARET MILLER Birth: 26 MAY 1868 Edinburgh Parish, Edinburgh, father John Miller, a shoemaker journeyman and a Mary Grant. The address shows as 36 Saint Mary's Wynd. There is a marriage date showing on the cert for 1851.

The reason I think this may be your Margaret is the birth address is a couple of doors down from that showing on the census in 1871. Also, Helen's birth in 1866 shows as 33 Saint Mary's Wynd. Father's occupation is also what we have for John Mallaghan. I think Mary Grant may have tried to pass herself off as married to John, whether she stated the surname as Miller or the registrar made a mistake would be pure guesswork!

I don't think we are going to get any closer on Margaret's Edinburgh years. Am I making any sense?  ;D

Monica  :)

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #31 on: Monday 03 May 10 23:13 BST (UK) »
John MALLICHAN died in 1898, widower of Mary Grant. Daughter Ellen (by now Brannan) reported the death. Death date would fit with Margaret's MCs showing her father John as deceased.

Monica
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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 04 May 10 07:45 BST (UK) »
HI,
Just to say that St Marys Street and Niddry Street both run off the High street one after the other on the right hand side as m sure that Blackfriars Street runs between them.  St Mary's Street runs down to the Pleasance and Niddry Street runs onto the Cowgate.  Hope this helps.Lynda
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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 04 May 10 14:02 BST (UK) »
Oh wow!!!  Thanks for so much more information.  It will probably take a while to digest and think about it all but I will get back to you soon.

Thanks again for all your help I'm most grateful.

Barbara.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #34 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 21:44 GMT (UK) »
Firstly many many apologies for not replying for so long.  Lots of family problems and event  have meant not really had a chance to look at family tree.  Retired in September now hoping to get back on track.

Just been looking at all the information given so long ago and agree with the information given by Monica L and Lyndyloo6.  Some of it I had loosely thought about but you have confirmed those thoughts.  Now I will have to put everything together and gather my thoughts about this elusive family. 

I really can not thank all contributors enough for their help (this should have been done before now).

Barbara.

If I manage to get sorted will let you know.
DURHAM - Johnson
NORTHUMBERLAND - Hunter,  Pigdon, Hansen, Waddell?, Turnbull
LANCASHIRE - Crabtree
SCOTLAND - Mallachin or Mallichan or Mallaghan
NORWAY - Hansen

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Re: Mallighan, Mallicham or Mallachin from Edinburgh.
« Reply #35 on: Wednesday 26 March 14 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Barbara, enjoy retirement  :) Hope life calmer for you now.

Monica
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