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Dickason
« on: Monday 21 January 13 08:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi
Seeking assistance with census records of
Matthew Robert and Mary Ann Dickason nee Clark.
Migrated 1857 From Southampton ENG to Victoria AUS 1857 per Sabrina.
They married 9 Aug 1832 Norfolk ENG.
Matthew's parents Matthew and Hannah Dickason nee Chilvers.
Mary 's parent ? John and Lydia Clark.
Would like assistance with BDM records for them and any other children please?
Mary Ann's children: b.abt.
Hannah 1837
Robert 1837
John 1839
Sarah Ann 1843
Mary Ann  1845
Robert 1847
Charlotte 1850
Harriet 1852
Harriet 1854
Louisa 1857
Lydia. 1860
Have their abt b. and ch year but not dates and places.? Necton Norfolk ENG.

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Re: Dickason
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 January 13 11:43 GMT (UK) »
Hi Velcro

Since you are asking for  Census help, even the 'abt' years that you have etc would be of help!

However, I'm referring this back to your topic of 2010, in which the 1851 Census was seemingly found for you, of Matthew & Mary - in Lambeth with 5 children.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=427758.0

Is the list of children you have given here in order? If so, then clearly any born after Charlotte won't be on any Census in the UK, since they left in 1857.

That 2010 topic also mentioned:
"A Mary Clark married a Matthew Dickerson/Dickenson 1838 in Marylebone, father John Clark, Shepherd - the only Mary Ann Clarke married 1832 Norfolk was  9/8/1832 Necton, Norfolk to a Samuel Dickson" So I'm curious, have you also since made discovery that the 9 Aug 1832 Necton marriage was Mary Ann & Matthew? and the 1838 Marylebone marriage is NOT them? )

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Re: Dickason
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 January 13 14:01 GMT (UK) »
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They married 9 Aug 1832 Norfolk ENG

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Lydia. 1860

Was she really born 28yrs after her parents married?

When was Mary Ann born?
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Re: Dickason
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 January 13 17:42 GMT (UK) »
The only Dickason/Clark marriage in Necton in 1832 is
Samuel Dickason to Ann Clark on 10 Aug

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 January 13 20:09 GMT (UK) »
As pointed out to you in 2010 the marriage at Necton in 1832 was between a Samuel Dickason and an Ann Clark.   Samuel would appear to be your Matthews brother and quite possibily Ann was a sister of Mary.  The name 'Samuel' is not a mistake on the marriage record, Samuel and Ann had a son Samuel bp.9/12/1832 Necton and a son William bp.6.8/1835 Necton!

Again, as already pointed out to you, Matthew Robert was plain Matthew, wife Mary Clarke was plain Mary not Mary Ann.   The 1851 census details have already been given to you and cannot locate them anywhere in 1841.

The eldest child - Hannah - was, again as already advised, bp.23/5/1836 Necton, illeg. dau. of Mary Clarke i.e. Matthew and Mary had not married then.

There are a number of online trees for this family that are somewhat up the pole to put it bluntly.   Someone seems to have posted incorrect information and everyone else has just copied it.    Matthew and Mary's dau. Sarah Ann for example - one tree I looked at states she was b.10/5/1843 Lambeth (which she may well have been) and bp.30/6/1844 St. George the Martyr, Southwark.    I've just looked on St. George the Martyr records for 30/6/1844 and the only entry this date is a Hannah Sarah Dickeson , dau. of Henry John and Elizabeth!!!!   

As to all the children you list - they didn't appear to baptise any of them in London!

The 'trees' state John was b.1839 Richmond, Victoria (when the family hadn't even left England)
                        Robert b. & d.1841 but no places given at all.
then comes Sarah Ann - birth regn. June qtr. 1843 Lambeth (which fits)
                  Mary (not Mary Ann) - reg'd Sept.1845 Marylebone
                  Robert - regd. Sept.1847 Marylebone
                  Charlotte - cannot even find a birth registration for her
As the 2 Harriet's born after 1851 do not know where they were born so can't pinpoint their birth registrations even.    The last 2 would appear to have been born in Australia.

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Re: Dickason
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 09:40 GMT (UK) »
Dear Carole
Could you do a lookup for Matthew Dickason and Hannah Chilvers please? Before 1st born William 1805 probably Necton or maybe Tottington where Hannah was born in Norfolk?
As stated before First I tried to find the family in 1851 and eventually found them transcribed as Tickason!

Are there census records of Matthew and Mary Dickason in Norfolk?

Other census (not census in Australia) records for this family would be in Victoria Australia after 1854 any sign of them recorded?
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Re: Dickason
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 11:01 GMT (UK) »
In 1841 Matthew and Hannah are still in Necton - transcribed as Dickmann!!

Marthen (?) Dickmann   60     Carpenter
Hannah Dickmann  50
James Dickmann   17
Sarah Ann Dickmann 12

ref. HO107 - 773 - 17 - 13 - 20

The 'trees' show Matthew d.31/3/1843 Necton but he wasn't buried there.

Hannah Dickason buried at Necton 19/12/1849.

Can find no trace of Matthew and Mary anywhere in the country in 1841 - sounds like they somehow dodged the enumerator.

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Re: Dickason
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 12:50 GMT (UK) »
Dear Annette
No wonder couldn't find them under Dickason.Hard family to sort. Many thanks.
Any records of Matthew and Hannah's marriage date?
Also 1832 or 1838 Marriage date for Matthew and Mary Dickason so confused!

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Re: Dickason
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 January 13 16:04 GMT (UK) »
Matthew Dickason and Hannah Chilvers married in Tottington 3 May 1803

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