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Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone please help me out with this family?  :)

James Butler was born in 1826 in Swaffen Bulbeck. The 1841 census shows him living with his father (presumably)  John Butler, who was born in 1806 and also with his grandmother (presumably) Sarah Butler, who was born in 1776.

He also has siblings.....Charlotte (1828)
                                  Charles   (1830)
                                  Isaac      (1834)
                                  Matilda   (1839)

On the 1851 census his father John has a new wife who I belief is Mary Ann Brighton, who he married in 1847. I am not so interested in Mary Ann for the moment.

I would be very grateful if someone could tell me who the first wife of John Butler is.  I will then hopefully find the mother of James, Charlotte, Charles, Isaac and Matilda.

Many thanks  :)
 
Best wishes HL


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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:19 GMT (UK) »
If nothing else turns up - Matilda's birth is on freebmd so a copy of her birth cert will show her mothers name
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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Carole.

I should have known better. Must be too late in the day and I'm not thinking straight. ::)
Best wishes HL


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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:29 GMT (UK) »
There is a burial on 3.2.1841 for a Jemima Butler aged 35 at St Mary's Swaffham Bulbeck
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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:39 GMT (UK) »
Ooh, thanks Carole, that's looking interesting.

Best wishes HL


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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:44 GMT (UK) »
No marriage or childrens baptisms on FS to check if she's "the one" but I think it's highly likely
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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 22:57 GMT (UK) »
Thanks so much for your help Carole. I think you're right and she is "the one"  :)

I sat here for a while and thought......"how on earth did Carole find that burial" 
Then I remembered a source I have hidden at the back of a cupboard and lo and behold I've found the record. Doubtless the same source you used  :)  Fancy me forgetting I had it.

I don't think the Swaffen records are online anywhere and so it would need someone with the Parish Records to confirm she's the mother but she is certainly the only likely burial. Mind you I don't know her maiden name.
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Re: Butler family from Swaffen Bulbeck
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 05 November 13 23:07 GMT (UK) »
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Mind you I don't know her maiden name.


Yes - that's the tricky bit and you don't know if she was from Swaffham or elsewhere.  We know she was born 1805 (ish) and FS have about 8 Jemima births in different parts of Cambridge between 1804-1806 but that assumes she was b Cambridge

Hopefully - somebody may have some local transcriptions to save you having to buy a birth cert
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Re: Butler family from Swaffham Bulbeck
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 06 November 13 06:47 GMT (UK) »
My old Cambs Baptism Index which goes up to 1837 shows baptisms of the following children of John and Jemima in Swaffham Bulbeck. (If you've been searching against Swaffen rather than the correct spelling of Swaffham that's why you're finding nothing online).
James 1827
Charlotte 1827
Charles 1830
Isaac 1833
Jeremiah 1836

A member submission on the IGI shows a marriage in Swaffham Bulbeck on 16 Oct 1825 between John Butler and Jemima Smith

The Baptism Index shows a baptism in Swaffham Bulbeck in 1806 of Jemima, daughter of John and Sarah Smith. An IGI member submission (unreliable, but this entry looks OK) shows a baptism on 19 Jan 1806 and a burial on 3 Feb 1841 - it also shows the baptism dates for all the children, other than James which it's missed!

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