WILLIS Frederick Henry (Fred H Willis)

[KGarrad]

No problem!
I'm always to happy to educate our colonial cousins!

Seriously though - Scotland has a separate legal system from England/Wales; and that applies to the BMD systems also.

It's wise to remember that Scottish certificates, like most of those in Australia, can contain a wealth of information, whereas as England/Wales cert's are poor in comparison!

[robgen1]

from colonial cousin, thank you

In most cases the certificates in most Australian states are usually good, which makes search so much easier overall. I think is they way they are recorded in England with Volume, Page, District and only after certain dates contain certain information.

I am still learning about the differences in English, Welsh and Scottish certificate

So do the Certs issued in Northern Ireland follow any specific format ?

[KGarrad]

So do the Certs issued in Northern Ireland follow any specific format ?

Yet another different legal jurisdiction!
More difficult to get hold of as well - you have to go through GRONI.

I don't have any NI certificates, so I can't comment n what they contain!

Also worth thinking about are the different dates that Civil Registration came into being?
1st July 1837 for England & Wales.
1855 for Scotland.
1864 for Ireland (then part of the UK), except Protestant marriages, 1845.
1878 for Isle of Man (not part of the UK!); 1884 for marriages.
1840 for Guernsey.
1842 for Jersey.

Complicated, huh!!

[robgen1]

The mind boggles with all those dates

I knew the 1837 England and Wales, i did not know about the registrations of births 1874/1875 bit

and then all the others, complicated indeed.

[ShaunJ]

I think he was a Fred rather than a Frederick.

If you have access to Ancestry, have a look at their "Fred K Willix" in the 1871 census

[robgen1]

Hi Shaun J

Thank you, I would never have guessed to look under Fred K Willix.
I do know that he used both names Fred and Frederick at least here in Australia, in any case

Cheers
Greg

[ShaunJ]

I just searched for Fred* Will* born Somerset circa 1861

[robgen1]

To All respondents,

many many thanks, hugely appreciated

Cheers
Greg

[Kay99]

Hi Greg

A wife would often be listed as Head of Household on the census if her husband was not present on the census night

I think Elizabeth was most probalbly born in Kington Magna, Dorset.  The other birth places are mistranscriptions.  In 1881 the birth place of Kingw is on the image a much longer word, but really badly scrawled and the transcriber gave up   Have you ever heard a thick Dorset accent?   My husband has one.   I am sometimes amazed that there aren't more errors when birth places are misheard

I can find Yarlington in Somerset near Wincanton http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/SOM/Yarlington/  but at the moment am at a loss with Penn.   I wonder whether it was short for Penselwood where he was lodging in 1851??  http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=18752

In 1901 I think the couple could still have been at Newton, Lancashire?

John Willis 75 b Yarlington, Somerset  Iron Founder
Elizabeth Willis    76  Kington Magna
RG13 Piece 3575 Folio 5 Page 2

Kay