BELLVE Victoria

[tropicalj]

I  did note  with  interest that  he included
 Constable as  his first childs middle name

I  have  tried  different ways  to  find a  death in Victoria that might  be  the missing wife.  He must  have abonded her very quickly  to  follow  the  young Emily  to New Zealand and have a number of children  with  her.  I  wonder  who  the missing wife stayed with in Victoria. 

 It  would be very  interesting  to see the photo of  the young  woman  on  her death bed so  to  speak.

Jenn

[cando]

Ian is the photographer or studio named anywhere on the photograph?

Cheers
Cando

[regross]

Hello,

I note on the IGI there are several entries relating to the Bellve family both in Australia and in NZ. They are submitted entries and one is for ESTEVAN BELLVE born GOULBURN c1864. I have been unable to find this in the NSW or Victorian records.

If this is the place of birth it might be worth contacting the local churches to see if they have any baptismal records which should show the  mothers name.

They may also have a receord of her death.

regards

Robyn

[Eyesee]

The submitted IGI info appears to be from one person here in NZ, who is a descendant, but some of it is based on family stories, not proven facts.

Until the Swiftsure list became available everyone had thought Stephen had been born in Australia.

Another story was that Estevan's first wife may have been Elizabeth Constable, an older sister of Emily, but that has since been proven not to be true either. She married an Alfred BULLINARIA in Luton, near Rochester Kent, in 1858, and was still there in 1861. They did come out to Australia as well, but not until 1869-70. I have posted on here before about them, trying to find when they did arrive. Date came from his death cert, said he was 19 years in Victoria.

Trying to find the photo so I can post it on here.

Ian C

[Eyesee]

Here is the photo

Ian C

[jorose]

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/
 - lots of various interesting things, including one from Mar 4 1881, saying that someone had played a trick on Mr Esteven Bellve of Feilding by writing to the Rangitiki Advocate, pretending to be him, and requesting them to publish a notice of his marriage to a Miss Holland - another note on Mar 18 1881 says it was "Miss Sarah Elizabeth Hollard"

Also in 1869 inwards to Wellington on the Wanganui - a Mr Bellve - could this be young Stephen?

[Eyesee]

It is the passengers arriving in Wellington on the Wanganui from Wanganui, and is Estevan. Had seen that one before.

Now that all papers are searchable did a search the other night. There were 2500+ items available by putting in the Bellve name.

Ian C

[duinnsleibhe]

Hi

Those New Zealand papers are in very good condition from what i saw!  I wish old Australian papers were in such good condition.  Happy reading Ian.

Anyway, a mention is made of Estevan's  death as well as a brief obituary published in the Feilding Star of June 17, 1896. Page 2.

Also, in the Wanganui Herald on the 2th April, 1893, there is an article which mentions that the Soler family and the Bellve family were friends.  The article also mentions Ruis.



Regards

duinnsleibhe

[cando]

Ian anything to identify the photographer...on the rear of the photograph perhaps?  Many photographs in the 19thC were mounted onto cardboard.

Cando