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Charles Viner EDSALL
« on: Tuesday 21 August 12 09:50 BST (UK) »
My name is Emily and I’m a student.  I come from a humongous family so I’m sorry for this epic message.

This is my family so far (I won’t bore you with the rest):

Charles Viner EDSALL
b. abt. 1821
d. 19.12.1903, (13092), Coongulmerang, age 82.
Parents: Charles Stokes Edsall and Charlotte Viner.

1st m. England.
Mary TURNER
b. abt. 1824
d. 1853, (28811), Collingwood, age 29.
Parents: Unknown.

2nd m. 1854, (2835),
Harriette WATTS
b. abt. 1837
d. 15.11.1907, (11863), Coongulmerang, age 70.
Parents: Charles Watts and Maria Leay.

2 Children from 1st marriage:

Emily EDSALL
b. abt. 1850, England.
d. 1943, (11074), Brighton, age 93.
m. 1875, (16), William RIMMINGTON
b. abt. 1840,
d. 1897, (11312), Ballarat East, age 57.
Parents: George Rimmington and unknown.

Charles EDSALL
b. abt. 1851, England
d. 1852, age 1,  :'( think he may have died on board the "Ballengiech" en route from London to Melbourne.


11 Children from 2nd marriage:

Charles James EDSALL
b. 1855, (5694), Brighton.
d. 31.05.1924, (7252), Sale, age 69.
1st m. 1881, (5169), Janet Tomlin GEMMELL
b. 1856, (3673), Melbourne.
d. 30.11.1903, (12967), Cobden, age 46.
Parents: George Gemmell and Janet Patterson.
2nd m. 1907, (6848), Mary Ann KING
b.
d.
( :-\This could be her death Mary Ann Edsall d. 1932, (8823), Cobden, age 84. – Parents: George Townsend and Mary Ann unknown)

Alice Louisa EDSALL
b. 1857, (8111), Brighton.
d. 20.08.1926, (9849), Geelong, age 68.
m. 1880, (1392), Thomas Alf VAGG
b. 1851, (CF22677), Salt Water.
d. 27.06.1911, (4560), Colac, age 61.
Parents: George Tilley Vagg and Ann Harding.

Flora Eliza EDSALL
b. 1859, (10293), Brighton.
d. 22.03.1944, (16817), Geelong, age 83.
m. 1883, (1364), William John SILVESTER
b. 1856, (2193), Warrnambool.
d. 04.04.1939, (14585), Geelong, age 83.
Parents: William Silvester and Harriet Owen.

William Francis Frederick EDSALL
b. 1863, (4909), St. Kilda.
d. 27.02.1933, (12602), Ferntree Gully, age 70.
1st m. 1891, (3749), Elizabeth Helene LANGHAM
b. 1866, (12735),
d. 23.12.1918, (15040), Warrenheip, age 52.
Parents: John Langham and Helen Stuart Donovan.
2nd m. 1925, (2994), Lillian BURRY
b.
d.
Parents:
( :-\This could be her death Lillian Edsall d. 1934, (14325), Emerald, age 64. – Parents Jos Purnell and Elinor Stuart)

Adelaide May EDSALL
b. 1864, (11924), St. Kilda.
d. 22.09.1940, (9537), Cheltenham, age 75.
m. 1886, (1069), Charles Priddle VAGG
b. 1860, (20224), Connewarre.
d. 20.08.1900, (8720), Coongulmerang, age 39 years and 11 months.
Parents: George Tilley Vagg and Ann Harding.

Henry Herbert EDSALL
b. 1866, (5111), St. Kilda.
d. 1867, (419), Victoria, age 1. :'(

Edward Herbert EDSALL
b. 1867, (6343), Ballarat.
d. 1930, (7694), Warrnambool, age 63.
m. 1902, (4564), Rachel COUCH
b. 1871, (13374), Mepunga.
d. 07.08.1931, (12011), Warrnambool, age 61.
Parents: George Couch and Mary Charlotte Elizabeth Abraham.

Annie Rose EDSALL
b. 1868, (21013), Ballarat.
d. 19.06.1951, (19842), Yarra Junction, age 83.
1st m. 1897, (190), Martin William PASCOE
b. 1858, (17338),Creswick.
d. 30.12.1910, (12347), Cowleys Creek age 52.
Parents: Joe Pascoe and Eliza Thomas.
2nd m. 1927 (10789), Charles GUTHRIE
b. 24.01.1858, (991), East Melbourne.
d. 29.08.1928, (12768), Terang, age 69.
Parents: Hugh Miller Guthrie and Jessie Thomson.

Elizabeth Grace EDSALL
b. 1871, (6096), Warrenheip.
d. 15.04.1954, (3885), Preston, age 83.
m. 1894, (621)
Patrick McNULTY
b. 1863, (12914), Windermere.
d. 17.08.1940, (20454), Wangaratta, age 77.
Parents: Denis McNulty and Mary Carlon.

Lucretia Harriette EDSALL
b. 1873, (6401), Warrenheip.
d. 19.12.1921, (15913), Surrey Hills, age 48.
m. 1901, (5523), Charles GUTHRIE
b. 1858, (991), East Melbourne.
d. 29.08.1928, (12768), Terang, age 69.
Parents: Hugh Miller Guthrie and Jessie Thomson.

Thomas Percival EDSALL
b. 1874, (26507), Warrenheip.
d. 1953, (17809), Bairnsdale, age 78.
m. 1907, (488), Irene Elizabeth FOUNTAIN
b. 1885, (14889), Bairnsdale.
d. 29.03.1963, (6064), Bairnsdale, age 78.
Parents: Richard Anders Fountain and Grace Elizabeth Horton.

I hope some of you may be related to some of the people that I have found, so that you may be able to make these people real with your stories. :)  I have found some brilliant obituary notices but I thought I knew what I was doing, as I’m not very experienced :-[, I need help to fill in the gaps.  I hope I have not put you to sleep, thank you for being patient and reading my stuff.  Thanks.

 8)Lol Em.












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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 10:30 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat, Emily.   :)

It looks like you've been doing some really thorough research.
You may or may not find Edsall descendants who are already Rootschatters, but some may well find your post by googling, and then join so that they can respond.

Is there anything we can help you with?

For example, are you aware that Charles J Edsall who died in 1924 has a will that is digitised. There are other digitised Edsall wills as well.


Dee   :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 10:47 BST (UK) »
There are a few people here on RChat that are related to your family:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,188001.0.html

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 11:23 BST (UK) »
Re Mary Turner

A Mary Turner, only daughter of the late Mr Turner of Shoreditch, London, married a Charles Edsall, jun, late of Truro, at Haggerstone Church, Shoreditch on 19 Feb 1848.

So frustrating to see just "Mr" - no guarantee that the name will appear on the marriage certificate.

regards

   


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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 11:31 BST (UK) »
EDSALL Charles Viner Edsall  Full age Broker's Clerk  New North Road  Father Charles Stokes EDSALL Broker
TURNER Mary Full Age  Spinster  Grange Road  Father Samuel TURNER Painter
19 Feb 1848
Parish - Haggerston St Mary
Borough -     Hackney

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 11:44 BST (UK) »
WOW I'm so excited that you guys replied to me.  ;D ;D ;D THANK YOU


Could you help me with the second marriages please, the man at the Library said that the ladies could have been married before they married the Edsall's, but I can't find this out   :( :( :(

Charles James EDSALL
2nd m. 1907, (6848), Mary Ann KING
b.
d.
(This could be her death Mary Ann Edsall d. 1932, (8823), Cobden, age 84. – Parents: George Townsend and Mary Ann unknown)

William Francis Frederick EDSALL
2nd m. 1925, (2994), Lillian BURRY
b.
d.
Parents:
(This could be her death Lillian Edsall d. 1934, (14325), Emerald, age 64. – Parents Jos Purnell and Elinor Stuart)

THANK YOU ALL AWESOME PEOPLE

lol Em.

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 12:16 BST (UK) »
This looks like the first marriage of Lilian, wife of William Francis Frederick Edsall.....

From the FreeBMD website…..

Lilian Purnell married Arthur Edward Burry in the district of Croydon in the September quarter of 1894.
Volume 2a page 520   

I've found Lilian with her parents in 1881 and I'll just type up the information for you.   ;)       



Dee    :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 12:23 BST (UK) »
In the 1881 English Census….
RG11/826/18/29

Joseph PURNELL married aged 54 a Map Mounter employing 1 Female
   born London, Middlesex       
Eleanor PURNELL wife aged 38 born Camberwell, Surrey       
Lillian PURNELL, daughter,    single aged 13 and a scholar born Wood Green, Middlesex
Edwin   PURNELL, Son, single aged 10 and a scholar born Islington, Middlesex    

The family was living at 2, Hinton Road, Beddington, Surrey


Dee    :)
Steeles, Burton, Garrod (Norfolk), Clarke, Tomblin (Rutland)
Bauer (London, France), Blades, Parker (Surrey)
Edwards, Coles, Smith, Nunley, Craddock, York, & Linnell (Northants) )
Ehmcke, Deimel, Appelkamp (Germany)
Watts (Somerset, Wiltshire) Selway, Churchill, & Chappell (Somerset)
Redwood (Devon, Essex) Button, Archer, Leach (Cambridgeshire)

Census information is Crown Copyright from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

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Re: Charles Viner EDSALL
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 21 August 12 12:25 BST (UK) »

Hi there,

I'll let Dee type up the information for you  
and just add this   ;D

Arriving in Victoria December 1907 aboard 'Miltiades"

Lilian BURRY age 34
Doris BURRY age 11
Olive BURRY age 9

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