Kinsella of Carnea Wiclow

[blacksmithy]

Hi
I have finally got to the next side of my family but am finding this side a little more challenging now we are outside of New Zealand!

Wondering if anyone can help me with any information on the family below.

Hannah Catherine Kinsella
Born: 1885 at Carnea
Parents: Philip Kinsella (d May 1904) & Jane Nolan (d 0904)
Fathers occupation - led to believe he was a police constable but haven't been able to prove this
Hannah's possible siblings include: Lizzie, Jane, Jack, Tom, Philip, Mary
Hannah sailed from Ireland on 27 June 1875 - destination New Zealand

Would appreciate and value any assistance or direction on where to look to grow this tree.

Cheers
Blacksmithy

[aghadowey]

Before we do too much searching could you explain/clarify the dates please. Hannah born "1885 at Carnea" and "sailed from Ireland on 27 June 1875."

Children of Philip Kinshelagh/Kinshela & Jane Nowlan-
Thomas (1867) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5YC-FBV
Philip (1869) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F563-SZ8
Jane (1872) https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F5X1-FQD

Could this be your Philip Kinsella in 1901 (wife wife Julia)?
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Carnew/Coollattin_Street/1818422

[blacksmithy]

oops
I meant to say Hannah Catherine was born c 1853. 

I am not familiar with the other spelling of Kinsella or Nolan but am very open to possibilities.  Hannah Catherine although an extremely savy business woman who purchased large chunks of land in Christchurch NZ, could not write, so maybe it was someone elses interpretation of her surname.  I hadn't thought of that!

Not sure if it helps but she married in the Catholic faith in NZ.
Cheers
Blacksmithy

[aghadowey]

In that case then the births of the 3 children I posted earlier might belong to a different family.

Unfortunately, civil registration of births started in 1864 so you'll need to see if there are church records for the correct period which survive.

[blacksmithy]

Thank you for your thoughts.  I will definately keep an open mind on the spelling of the surname and look through church records considering this spelling as well.
Cheers
Blacksmithy

[hasta]

Also Rootsireland (PPV) have records of some children's baptism's of a Philip Kinsella and Jane Nolan.

Mary Kinsella 1859
John Kinsella 1861
John Kinsella 1863
Thomas Kinsellah 1867 all baptised in Carnew RC. (I presume you mean Carnew as 'Carnea' does not exist.
John born in 1863 (obviously the first John died) could be this man in the 1901 census in Carnew with wife Mary Anne and children Jane, Philip, Thomas and Catherine
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wicklow/Carnew/Brunswick_Street/1818394/
Civil registration began in 1864 - so maybe concentrate on looking for any record after that to get a proper cert - though I had a look for a couple and they aren't exactly jumping out at me.

[blacksmithy]

Thank you to you both
I am feeling confident you are on the right track given the dates, location and strong family names.
I have not been able to find Philip though and I am sure he is the 7th child meaning he should have been registered. From reading the scant information I have I think Philip had a girl called Jenny and she married a Mr Brennan.

Also I think I have deduced that Mary (probably the first child of Philip and Jane) had  child Jack, Tom and twins called Lizzie & Jane but have no idea who she married.  The rest is a mystery.

Thank you for heading me in a direction!!
Cheers
Blacksmithy

[aghadowey]

I have not been able to find Philip though and I am sure he is the 7th child meaning he should have been registered.
Which Philip? there was a birth for a Philip in 1869 (son of Philip & Jane) that I posted earlier.

If not that one then when would this Philip have been born? of before 1864 there will be no birth certificate and there can be omissions in church records, not all records survive and not all are online.

[blacksmithy]

Sorry yes you are right.  I have just tidied up the recording wheel I have and see that I do have Philip down accurately as you stated.

Just another thought: Is Jenny a possible shortened form of Mary Jane or more likely to be a shortend version of Jennifer as it is here in NZ??

Thanks for your time and keeping me accurate 
Blacksmithy