William and Alice Gray

[JenB]

I'm wondering if Eleanor with William and Eleanor in 1851 is their grand-daughter, not their niece 

On your other thread janis found the 1831 baptism of Eleanor, daughter of Matthew Grey and Alice Mason.
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=310477.msg1918082#msg1918082

On family search there is a baptism of an Alice Mason at Doddington in 1808 and her parents are William and Eleanor Mason.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JSJN-8H3

[JenB]

On family search there is a baptism of an Alice Mason at Doddington in 1808

1861 census
RG 9 / 3882 / 43 / 19
Easington Grange, Belford

Matthew Grey, head, mar, 61, grocer, Northumberland Holburn
Alice do, wife, mar, 54, do Doddington
Mary do, daur, unm, 27, ag lab, do Chester Hill
William do, sons, 13, do son, do Hallow Well
Martha Grey, daur, 11, Scholar, Northumberland Tyneley
Thomison Grey, grand do, 4, do Colchester


1851 census
HO 107 / 2420 / 19 / 30
Tyneley, Ellingham

Matthew Gray, head, mar, 51, ag lab, Northumberland Morpeth
Mary do, daur, 17, ag servt, do Bambrough
Barbara do, daur, 13, do, do Scremerston
Alice do, daur, 10, scholar, Northumberland Bambrough
Margaret do, daur, 7, do do
William do, son, 3, do Alnwick


1851 census
HO 107 / 2421 / 13 / 18
Mount Hooley, Fenwick
Geo Reed, head, 27, farm labourer, Northumberland Belford
Ellenor do, wife, 22, do West ?
do do, daur, 1, do Houtle
Thos Grey, ?servt, 15, Farm lab, do Hemshill
Allis Grey, visitor, mar, 42, Northumberland Doddington
Martha Jane do, do, 1, do Tynley

[Jan Prit]

Good Morning JenB thanks for your help where is Doddington? and Alice in the 1841 Census? with William Mason and Eleanor, Thomas, Eleanor, John,and Barbary aged 3. I am trying to find William Mason's parents and thought that Alice Mason is his sister, I don't search in Family search very much I have found mistakes.

Janet

[Grandies]

Hello again Janet,
We have talked before regarding William and Eleanor Mason.
I had them in mind as potential parents of Barbara (Barbary) Mason, born 1803/4 in Bamburgh / Ancroft on different census.
She married Thomas Tait, and was living with her family also at Brock Mill on the 1841 census.
I cannot find a birth registration for her despite numerous attempts.(nor marriage for that matter).
However I thought it may help your search to know that she and Thomas had all of their children baptised at the Lowick Presbyterian church. I think this must be her religion as the Tait family are fairly solidly Roman Catholic. So, if she is the daughter of William and Eleanor, maybe they were also Presbyterian?
I am interested to know who the 3 yr old Barbary Mason belongs to on the 1841 census living with William and Eleanor.
A few threads to untangle here. Would be happy to receive any guidance?
Many thanks Eileen

[Jan Prit]

Good Evening Grandies, thanks for your message and thanks for your input I am still trying to find out  about Barbary some suggestions are that Eleanor is too old to have a young child and that she maybe a grandaughter I am going to bed enough searching for one day.

Janet

[JenB]

where is Doddington?

Hi Janet - why not take a look at the link to Northumberland Parishes I gave you here  http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=681008.msg5256435#msg5256435

You will find Doddington on there, complete with a location map and links to other maps of the parish. 

As I suggested there, this and the other links I gave are all very useful and well worth bookmarking.

[Grandies]

Morning Janet,
It is hard to get an idea of the placement of these areas just from their names, especially if you are not familiar with the country!!
I have been in Australia over 40 years but grew up in County Durham, just south of the places we are researching, however I am not familiar with a lot of these names.
I find that popping the name into google maps, and then zooming out to take in the surrounding countryside helps to fix it in my mind. Also I will often check the distance from that place to the area of a record I may have just found. It is amazing that some of these villages are still tiny 200 years later!
I had contact from another researcher who visited the cemetery of Kyloe church recently. He was unable to find any Mason names listed, so I am guessing they were not in the area long, or were not buried in an Anglican church. (which I am thinking was a requirement of the times?).
Eleanor was 65 in the 1841 census. Way too old, I think to have a 3 yr old daughter. Perhaps a granddaughter?
Happy hunting,
Eileen

[Jan Prit]

Morning Grandies, thanks for your message their is no entry to say that she was her grandaughter in the 1841 census perhaps a change of life baby who knows I am still searching and have found a lot of mistakes and wrong entries, I am so careful when I have results, I hope they are the right ones.

janet

[JenB]

their is no entry to say that she was her grandaughter in the 1841 census

No relationships are given in the 1841 census 

I don't search in Family search very much I have found mistakes.

You will find a lot of excellent source material on Family Search. Much of it is extracted from original Parish Registers and is a good basis for further research.