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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Bigamy
« on: Sunday 31 December 17 17:57 GMT (UK)  »
Girl Guide: Yes that's William and Lucy in Dartmouth Street in 1901.

The Baker's are perhaps another puzzle. Lucy was born Judge and married a David Taylor in 1873. I believe David died in 1888.

In one of the two newspaper reports re. bigamy that I have found there is mention of two illegitimate children that William was told to contribute to. I have considered that these could be the Baker children, especially given that Hannah Baker was living with her husband and his 'Father in law' William in 1911.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Bigamy
« on: Sunday 31 December 17 16:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all thanks for the replies, will work through them all in a while.

All looks pretty promising. Someone mentioned Brook Street and that would certainly tie in with Brook Street being close to where I know the families lived on a number of census returns, both before and after 1891.

I'm sure I've come across the surname Sheldon before too.

Candrjm: It was William's second wife that was asking for maintenance not Matilda. Not got the report to hand but from memory he had thrown his second wife out and was living with another woman.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Bigamy
« on: Sunday 31 December 17 13:30 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Josey it's the lack of surname that's been the problem. I'll go through the census records again to see if I've missed any possibles.

Girl Guide that's the correct Matilda yes.

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Bigamy
« on: Sunday 31 December 17 13:02 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Girl Guide, thanks for the reply.

I've been unable to find any trace of another report regarding the adjournment date in February. Whether one exists or not I don't currently know.

William had moved from Hargate Lane by the time of the 1891 census but not far away.

I have searched the immediate area but didn't really find any possible answers unless I overlooked something. Will try again.

I was wondering if any records relating to the court case would still exist?

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Family History Beginners Board / Bigamy
« on: Sunday 31 December 17 12:11 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all,

Bit of a strange one this, and it's got me baffled. I always thought that my great grandfather was an only child, his parents married in 1874 and he was born shortly after. By the time of the 1881 census he was living with just his father and there was no sign of his mother, infact I've never found any trace of her again whether it be BMD or census returns. Her husband married again in 1889 so I presumed that she had perhaps died.

A couple of years ago I made a surprising discovery in an old newspaper. The husband's second wife had taken out a court order against him to pay maintenance. However it turned out that he was still legally married to my great grandfather's mother. Not only was he a bigamist but so was she, the court heard that she was still living, had married again and had ten children.

Despite searching I have been unable to find her, her second marriage or any of the ten children she was reported to have had with her second husband.

Names & dates are:

William Coates b. 1852 (West Bromwich) married Matilda Foster b. 1857 (Smethwick) in 1874 at Christ Church, West Bromwich.

Their son, my great grandfather William was born in 1874 (West Bromwich).

William senior married again in 1889 to Lucy Taylor nee Judge.

The newspaper report was dated 1891 and it stated that Matilda claimed that she had left her husband 15 years ago so roughly 1876.

Can anyone help in anyway or suggest anything that would help in my search.

Thanks

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Europe / Re: Hensel / Romania Research - Advice Please
« on: Monday 17 May 10 18:36 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Bluebird Research on Monday 17 May 10 13:31 BST (UK)
To expand upon what Peonie wrote...

i) It sounds as though Mr Hensel was a UN-registered Displaced Person who was resettled here after WW2. Records do exist for DPs but can be minimal - however, if nothing else, they usually give place of birth, which is essential for the next step (record keeping for Romania being decentralised).

ii) True, there were many Germans in the Banat (now divided between Serbia and Romania) but there were many others elsewhere in Romania, not least in Transylvania. Those in Banat were generally described as Swabians; the Transylvanians as Saxons. There were other pockets in Satu Mare (known as Sathmar Germans), Bukovina and Dobruja on the Black Sea coast. This is why it is vital to find out where Mr Hensel came from to have any real prospects of success.

I see he was naturalised as a British subject on 22 December 1954. I believe naturalisation records of that date are closed documents but you could make a Freedom of Information application to the Home Office to obtain a copy. This is their email address FOIRequests@homeoffice.gsi.gov.uk 

Many thanks for that.

Is it possible to obtain Displaced Person records and if so how?

I will try a FOIR request. What information would I need to provide?

Thanks again.

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Europe / Re: Hensel / Romania Research - Advice Please
« on: Saturday 15 May 10 19:55 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: Peonie on Saturday 15 May 10 00:41 BST (UK)
Hello miwb and welcome to RootsChat,

Many Germans migrated to the Banat in Romania. You can google  - Banat Hensel or Donauschwaben and you will find a lot. You can find the history of Banat here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banat.

You may find naturalization papers at the National Archives and perhaps find out a bit more.

Good luck, Peonie

added: another good place to look  -  http://www.dvhh.org/research/ds_research.htm

Thanks for the reply Peonie, I'll give it a try.

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Europe / Romania Research - HENSEL- Advice Please
« on: Friday 14 May 10 17:47 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I am trying to find out more information about my partner's grandfather Helmut HENSEL.

I know his date of birth (14 November 1918) and his father's name (Michael HENSEL) and that they were both mechanics.

On his death certificate it states that Helmut was born in Romania but gives no further location.

He moved to England sometime before or during 1949. He married and settled in Wolverhampton, West Midlands.

Does anyone have any advice or suggestions on how to find out more about him ? There are unfortunately no family members that can help with information.

Would there of been records kept of his arrival in England  ?

Any help or advice gratefully received.

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