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Lanarkshire / Re: James Mack Smith
« on: Monday 03 February 20 01:55 GMT (UK)  »
Wow, thanks Rosie.  I misread what you wrote at first hence ramblings below. (edited with this)   looks very hopeful.
 
I have managed to go further back and Lilias MacNiven Smith was born in Muckairn, think 1859, parents Peter (occupation Sawyer) and Margaret nee MacCorquodale.  she moved over to Isle of Man in 1896 and is buried there, think 1936. 
Lilias married Thomas Smith and from what I can gather he left the family c1900.  I haven't been able to trace what became of him unfortunately.  Was he living in MacDonald Street with them?
I wonder now if he returned to Glasgow and his sons moved back over to him.  My Gt Grandmother Margaret Ann McKenzie Smith, their daughter, married a John Paton in I think 1908 (not got my tree handy) in Govan.  He died in a drowning accident think 1912 and she went back to the IOM.

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Lanarkshire / Re: James Mack Smith
« on: Sunday 02 February 20 12:30 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you Rosie,your help very much appreciated, sad he was so young, and a widower as well.  wonder if they had any children?   I would love a copy please!

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Lanarkshire / James Mack Smith
« on: Friday 31 January 20 01:47 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to trace what became of two of my Gt Grandmothers brothers.  James Mack or Meck Smith born 29/2/1888 and John born 1885.  They were born in Glasgow but moved to the Isle of Man c1896.  I know my Gt Grandmother moved back and lived in Govan sometime between 1904 and 1914, before going back to IOM.
Her brothers may have also returned to Scotland? 
They may have joined the Navy but I know nothing of them after the 1901 Census in Ramsey IOM where they lived with their Mother Lilias Smith b1858 in Muckairn.
Their Father was Thomas Smith, born 1860 Old Monklands, Engine Fitter.  I believe they lived in Toll Cross just before going to IOM in 1896 and my Gt Grandmother married in Govan.
Did they die in WW1?
Can anyone help please?

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Australia / Re: William CUBBON
« on: Sunday 09 December 18 23:35 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you, yes, only one daughter.
I haven’t got access to ancestry at the moment, would love to see census details on the daughters and families, and where they were in Liverpool.  Was Margaret in Flintshire in 1901?
Was the Will ever sorted?  What was the problem?  Anywhere to find this information out?
It’s ironic that he was transported for allegedly forging his Mother’s Will and the subsequent wrangle of his own. 
Thanks again
San

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Australia / Re: William CUBBON
« on: Thursday 06 December 18 10:02 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you all.  Makes very interesting reading.  He was found guilty of forging his Mother’s Will in his favour, rather than his sister.  His Father was still alive and I think he was the person to report his son.  Interesting his daughters followed him over.
Also found article that someone met similar death a few years before!

July 22 1871

MAGISTERIAL INQUIRY

A magisterial inquiry into the cause of the death of GEORGE GRAHAM, found dead at a waterhole at Three-mile Creek, on the 19th instant, was held by the police magistrate, at the house of WILLIAM CUBBON, of Jebropilly, on Thursday last. EDWIN COLLETT deposed to having discovered the body of deceased, whom he knew by sight and by name, lying in a waterhole in Mr. Cubbon’s paddock, at Three-mile Creek; deceased was on his belly with his face in the water; there was only four or five inches of water where his face lay......witness got the assistance of GEORGE WHITNEY. William Cubbon deposed to having seen the body of the deceased.....he knew the deceased who had been in the habit of going to his house occasionally. ROBERT ALLEN deposed as to the identification of the body, who was a widower aged 33 years, and was born in County Tyrone, Ireland; deceased was Presbyterian and had a daughter living with her grandmother in Brisbane......... (Queensland Times, Ipswich Herald and General Advertiser)

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Australia / Re: William CUBBON
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 21:00 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you so much everyone for your help.  Much appreciated.

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Australia / William CUBBON
« on: Wednesday 05 December 18 12:47 GMT (UK)  »
An ancestors brother, William Cubbon, was found guilty of forgery in the Isle of Man in 1847  and was transported on the HASHEMY in 1848 to Tasmania with a 10 year sentence.  Watching a programme yesterday it was mentioned that the locals wouldn’t let this ship disembark so the inmates were sent to South Australia with a ‘Ticket of Leave’
Is there anyway of finding out what happened to William Cubbon? Did he survive journey? Is there a copy of these tickets of leave?  Census for South Australia?
He left behind a wife and three daughters and can’t find that he returned.
Thanks

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1841 /51 census look up please
« on: Wednesday 30 August 17 00:16 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for your help.  She is a mystery.  Liverpool Records Office have the entrance details for Benjamin and Joseph to the Industrial School, advised that Mary Alexander placed them there 1869, January if my memory is correct.  On record that she was widowed and couldn't keep them. So her death, or possible remarriage was after 1869. 

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Census Lookup and Resource Requests / Re: 1841 /51 census look up please
« on: Monday 28 August 17 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, that's them. Wonder if John Burns is on 1861 census please?

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