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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Drew family Liverpool, and before that ... ?
« on: Tuesday 30 June 15 22:33 BST (UK)  »
Dear Ladyhawk
On James' birth cert in 1843 John is a clothes dealer, but by 1846 when William is born he was described a labourer, which remained his occ when he died in August the next year.  My guess he was the main breadwinner fallen on hard times, because when John was buried it was paid for (14s 6d), but when his widow died two years later she had a paupers burial.  Hence William in the workhouse in the 1851 census. 

Does that help at all?
Jim

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Drew family Liverpool, and before that ... ?
« on: Tuesday 30 June 15 20:52 BST (UK)  »
Dear Blue
Thanks, yes, I have him, and his certs. I did get Mary's maiden name off Will's cert.  I was surprised that on James' birth cert Mary was given as "late Harkins formerly Alexander" so she was married before, but I can find no trace of that marriage either. Were your Bradys Irish?  If so, do you know where they were from - just a long shot.  John Drew died at 4 Oriel St, but the informant present at death was Winifred McGowan of no.8, so they perhaps all knew each other?
Dear Jim 1
Yes I have her details, but I can't seem to find out anything for certain prior to the birth of the kids. 
Dear Nanny Jan
No, nothing
Dear Scouseboy
I have John's (the registrar made a dogs dinner of it - all crossing out and corrections) but doesn't give me much and am waiting for Mary's from GRO.
Thanks again to all of you!
Jim

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Family History Beginners Board / Drew family Liverpool, and before that ... ?
« on: Monday 29 June 15 21:01 BST (UK)  »
Hello
I would welcome any advice please. Using Findmypast and Ancestry I have found my way back, with a high degree of confidence, to gt gt gdad William b.1846 to John Drew and Mary (Alexander). John and Mary died 1847 and 1849, and Will went to the workhouse, then made good. However I can't make any progress back from that.  They lived in Oriel St slum (80% Irish) but I haven't been able to find a marriage, to get parents names etc, so they may have been married in Ireland?  Anyway I don't know how to drill any deeper and I would be very grateful for any ideas, please?
Thanks for reading this.
Jim

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Liverpool c.1840
« on: Thursday 17 October 13 20:20 BST (UK)  »
Dear Mo
Thank you!
Jim

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Liverpool c.1840
« on: Wednesday 16 October 13 16:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mo
OK. Thank you.
Jim

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Liverpool c.1840
« on: Wednesday 16 October 13 15:22 BST (UK)  »
Ruskie and Mo, thank you again.  Those details for William are the ones that I have.  Mo, I am using a website called Lancashire Online Parish Clerks to look at burials etc but cannot find records that you have identified.  Is there somewhere else I can look, please?

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Liverpool c.1840
« on: Wednesday 16 October 13 14:33 BST (UK)  »
Thanks to each of you for such a quick response!  William is in the 1851 census as a pauper in the Liverpool Workhouse, but I haven't been able to identify John and Mary on the census with clarity. I got his parents names and address off his birth cert which shows dad as a labourer.  The two burials Mo has very kindly identified may be right and fit with the storyline of the workhouse.  Oriel Street was the epicentre of a major disease problem during the years in question.  I don't really know how to firm up the ID of John/Mary without their marriage cert, but I'm new to this and will get better I hope! I got to William by working back and cross-referencing dates, addresses, and the little bit of family history an (even more!) aged relative has passed on to me.  I'm pretty confident I have the right chappie though its a common name that doesn't help.

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Family History Beginners Board / Liverpool c.1840
« on: Wednesday 16 October 13 12:39 BST (UK)  »
Hello.  I am completely new to this.  I have tried to trace my family and using just "Findmypast" have got back with a high degree of certainty to William Drew b.5/121846, parents John and Mary (formerly Alexander) in Liverpool. They lived in Oriel Street which I have established had a reputation for squalor and disease, so no unclaimed Earldom then! This was one of those 20 to a room, no food or light places.  However can't find "hide nor hair" of John and Mary and as reports are that that some 80% of Oriel Street were poor Irish immigrants I guess that is the next place to look.  How do I get started on that, please, because I don't think my present resource Findmypast has all that.

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