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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Swiss Divorce Documents (in German)
« on: Friday 05 January 24 20:36 GMT (UK) »
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Swiss Divorce Documents (in German)
« on: Thursday 04 January 24 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Thank you so much for this. It appears that Anna Magdalena did not remarry - Kriemler married someone else.
Would you mind having a look at Zürcher's second divorce?
Marianne
This is what I can read:
In Sachen der
Johannes Zürcher von Grub, wohnhalft in Wolfhalden, alt 27 Jahren,
gegen
Anna Barbara Bischoffberger, alt 34 Jahren
(..... den 26. Mai 1835, Eltern eines schwächlichen Mädchens)
betreffend ... gemeinschaftlicher Scheidungs....,
...
in ....
1. der Gemüts... der Bischoffberger;
2. der von ihrer Seite, seit mehr als einem Jahre stattgefundenen
Verweigerung ehelicher Pflichten, und
... .... .... mit dem 53. Art. der
....
Es sollen diese Eheleute ganz .... sein.
Im .... soll Zürcher sich von Ehegaumen
und im Bischoffberger (wegen ihrer Gemüt ...)... ...
... zu ... haben, in Bischoffberger ... aber .... vor
Ablauf von zwei Jahren um ... Erlaubnis ... mögen.
Zürcher, der schon ein Mal geschieden worden war, hat 50 Gulden,
die Bischoffberger 10 Gulden als Busse zu bezahlen.
Would you mind having a look at Zürcher's second divorce?
Marianne
This is what I can read:
In Sachen der
Johannes Zürcher von Grub, wohnhalft in Wolfhalden, alt 27 Jahren,
gegen
Anna Barbara Bischoffberger, alt 34 Jahren
(..... den 26. Mai 1835, Eltern eines schwächlichen Mädchens)
betreffend ... gemeinschaftlicher Scheidungs....,
...
in ....
1. der Gemüts... der Bischoffberger;
2. der von ihrer Seite, seit mehr als einem Jahre stattgefundenen
Verweigerung ehelicher Pflichten, und
... .... .... mit dem 53. Art. der
....
Es sollen diese Eheleute ganz .... sein.
Im .... soll Zürcher sich von Ehegaumen
und im Bischoffberger (wegen ihrer Gemüt ...)... ...
... zu ... haben, in Bischoffberger ... aber .... vor
Ablauf von zwei Jahren um ... Erlaubnis ... mögen.
Zürcher, der schon ein Mal geschieden worden war, hat 50 Gulden,
die Bischoffberger 10 Gulden als Busse zu bezahlen.
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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Swiss Divorce Documents (in German)
« on: Wednesday 03 January 24 22:14 GMT (UK) »
Can someone please help me decipher these documents drawn up in Switzerland in the 1830s? They are written in German. I get the general gist of the proceedings, but would love to know the exact words. Thank you.
Marianne
This is what I can make out:
1833 document
Zürcher Johannes von Grub, sesshaft/wohnhaft? ..... ... in Wolfhalden gegen
....., Anna Magdalena, .... ..... ....
Copulation .... am 20 Ap(ril) 1830 erzeugten 3 Kinder
Zürcher verlangt von seinem Weibe geschieden zu werden ...
für .... verdächtigem? Umgang mit Ludwig ....., von
.... ...... 10 Gulden gebüsst worden ... s. ... 1833
...
Es sollen diese Eheleute ... geschieden sein, er soll 10 Gulden 48
und sie 2 Gulden 42 Gebüss bezahlen.
1834 document
Johannes Zürcher von Grub sesshaft in Wolfhalden gegen
Anna Magdalena Schwank, betreffend Scheidungs...
Diese Eheleute wurden 1833... geschieden, ... .... ....
für den unerlaubten Umgang mit N. ... sich schuldig gemacht
und .... bestraft wurde, und ... Zürcher ... der Scheidung
...., ... ... Ehe... ... aufgehört.
... ..... hat er sich von Ehegaume ... ...
des Ehegericht zu.... Gebühr hat ... 21 Gulden 36, und sie 5 Gulden 24
zu...
1835 document
In Sachen der
Anna Magdalena Schwank von Grub, abgeschiedener Witten des Johannes Zürcher
betreffend Antrag um Copulationsbewilligung
hat im kt Ehegericht ...
Es soll der ..., mit .... der Einwilligung der betreffenden
Ehegaumenbehörde, in ihrem Antrag ... sein.
Marianne
This is what I can make out:
1833 document
Zürcher Johannes von Grub, sesshaft/wohnhaft? ..... ... in Wolfhalden gegen
....., Anna Magdalena, .... ..... ....
Copulation .... am 20 Ap(ril) 1830 erzeugten 3 Kinder
Zürcher verlangt von seinem Weibe geschieden zu werden ...
für .... verdächtigem? Umgang mit Ludwig ....., von
.... ...... 10 Gulden gebüsst worden ... s. ... 1833
...
Es sollen diese Eheleute ... geschieden sein, er soll 10 Gulden 48
und sie 2 Gulden 42 Gebüss bezahlen.
1834 document
Johannes Zürcher von Grub sesshaft in Wolfhalden gegen
Anna Magdalena Schwank, betreffend Scheidungs...
Diese Eheleute wurden 1833... geschieden, ... .... ....
für den unerlaubten Umgang mit N. ... sich schuldig gemacht
und .... bestraft wurde, und ... Zürcher ... der Scheidung
...., ... ... Ehe... ... aufgehört.
... ..... hat er sich von Ehegaume ... ...
des Ehegericht zu.... Gebühr hat ... 21 Gulden 36, und sie 5 Gulden 24
zu...
1835 document
In Sachen der
Anna Magdalena Schwank von Grub, abgeschiedener Witten des Johannes Zürcher
betreffend Antrag um Copulationsbewilligung
hat im kt Ehegericht ...
Es soll der ..., mit .... der Einwilligung der betreffenden
Ehegaumenbehörde, in ihrem Antrag ... sein.
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Is this the same man? (Swiss photo)
« on: Wednesday 08 November 23 08:48 GMT (UK) »
Thanks all! I thought so too - just trying to convince a cousin 
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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Is this the same man? (Swiss photo)
« on: Saturday 04 November 23 20:08 GMT (UK) »
I have two family photographs, taken in Switzerland in the early 1900s.
Can someone please have a look at the man in the photograph?
I'd like to find out if it is the same man in both of the photographs.
Thank you
Marianne
Can someone please have a look at the man in the photograph?
I'd like to find out if it is the same man in both of the photographs.
Thank you
Marianne
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Buckinghamshire / Re: "The Osborns of Stoke Goldington & Newport Pagnell"
« on: Friday 21 May 21 23:57 BST (UK) »
Thank you for all the suggestions.
I have been in touch with Don Hurst already. I found the "book" (which was a three page pamphlet, rather than a book) in an archive in Yorkshire. Not as much information as I was hoping for, mainly gleaned from wills. F W Bull was a descendant of the Newport Pagnell Osborns.
I will get in touch with the Stoke Goldington Association and see if they know anything else about the family. It is Thomas Osborn (1704-1782) and his ancestors, and his son William (1754-1844) who went to live in Woburn Beds, I am most interested in. George Osborn in Newport Pagnell was William's brother.
The Olney Osborns lead back to a different area, and seem unrelated.
Marianne
I have been in touch with Don Hurst already. I found the "book" (which was a three page pamphlet, rather than a book) in an archive in Yorkshire. Not as much information as I was hoping for, mainly gleaned from wills. F W Bull was a descendant of the Newport Pagnell Osborns.
I will get in touch with the Stoke Goldington Association and see if they know anything else about the family. It is Thomas Osborn (1704-1782) and his ancestors, and his son William (1754-1844) who went to live in Woburn Beds, I am most interested in. George Osborn in Newport Pagnell was William's brother.
The Olney Osborns lead back to a different area, and seem unrelated.
Marianne
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Buckinghamshire / Re: "The Osborns of Stoke Goldington & Newport Pagnell"
« on: Tuesday 04 May 21 04:27 BST (UK) »
Thank you.
Unfortunately not much about the Osborns in there, except for a few diary entries.
Unfortunately not much about the Osborns in there, except for a few diary entries.
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Buckinghamshire / "The Osborns of Stoke Goldington & Newport Pagnell"
« on: Monday 03 May 21 22:30 BST (UK) »
I am looking for "The Osborns of Stoke Goldington & Newport Pagnell" by F W Bull. It appears to have been published in the early 1900s.
Does anyone know anything about this publication or where I could obtain a copy, or scans/photographs of its pages.
I am trying to establish how George Osborn of Newport Pagnell, woolstapler, was related to William Osborn of Woburn, Beds.
Who was F W Bull who wrote this?
Thanks, Marianne
Does anyone know anything about this publication or where I could obtain a copy, or scans/photographs of its pages.
I am trying to establish how George Osborn of Newport Pagnell, woolstapler, was related to William Osborn of Woburn, Beds.
Who was F W Bull who wrote this?
Thanks, Marianne
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United States of America / Re: Doris Nellie Alberta Kirkpatrick - Colorado
« on: Wednesday 20 November 19 09:46 GMT (UK) »
Thank you shellyesq, this is a great help. I've written to the denver library to see if they can send me Homer's obituary.
With the social security application, who would I contact to find out more information about her estate? I have not got any experience with US records.
I see that Homer had a probate at the Denver Probate Court, but could not see any for Doris.
With the social security application, who would I contact to find out more information about her estate? I have not got any experience with US records.
I see that Homer had a probate at the Denver Probate Court, but could not see any for Doris.