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Channel Islands Lookup Requests / Re: Prendpain family - lookup request
« on: Wednesday 29 March 17 02:01 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I have also come across the surname PRENDPAIN and all it's variations... I think it has also been PROPAIN.  I have found the majority of the information that was sent to you earlier - however I still cannot make the connection to Jane GODFRAY... though I know there was a Jane who married a PRENDPAIN... I cannot make the links.
Pam

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Renfrewshire / Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« on: Monday 18 June 12 05:54 BST (UK)  »
Thanks hugely for your efforts.  Everything you mention below is correct. It is the same George.
Trying to establish George's parents - which is my major brick wall.
Also the whereabouts of sons William Inglis and Alexander.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« on: Sunday 17 June 12 04:24 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
George is one of my brick walls - I have no idea where he was born  but I suspect it may have been Inverness or Renfrewshire.  After years of looking the only 'match' I can see at this stage is son of George HEPBURN and Agnes JAMESON.  Though nothing to prove it.
Certainly the name Agnes was never passed down to later generations.

Thanks for your interest....

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Renfrewshire / Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« on: Sunday 17 June 12 04:21 BST (UK)  »
No sorry - George didn't have a daughter named Ruth.

Thanks for your interest.

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Renfrewshire / Re: Death at sea - Greenock MI
« on: Monday 11 June 12 01:04 BST (UK)  »
This may be very out of date, but there certainly was a marriage between Helen Baillie Inglis (born Inverness 16 July 1799, daughter of George Inglis and Helen Alves) and George Hepburn.   Details of the marriage settlement are, or should be, in the Inverness museum, among the papers of Helen's father, George Inglis, latterly of Kingsmills, a Demerara planter, and former partner in St Vincent of two of the Alves brothers from Inverness and the financier George Baillie).  I have also see a New Zealand posting suggesting it was a runaway marriage - she was certainly very young.   You probably have all this by now, but just in case......

Allan,
I cannot believe this.  She certainly was the ONLY Helen that matched and I certainly couldn't find a death for her - so a second marriage in 1831 would make sense.  This presumably means that George and Helen divorced?  Her marriage to George took place when she was 14yrs of age - which matched the story that it was a runaway marriage - and the marriage entry had a 'blank' where her father's name should have been!!
Any further information would be gratefully received.  I will certainly investigate further.
Thanks  :)

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Questions re surname Goosney
« on: Sunday 10 April 11 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jennifer,
I should have mentioned I had checked both Marion Turk's books as mentioned by Stewart.  There are no GOOSNEYS, GOSNEYs.... lots of GOSSELINS.... I wonder?
Sorry cannot be much more help.
Good luck...

 

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Alderney, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark / Re: Questions re surname Goosney/GOSNEY
« on: Saturday 09 April 11 04:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Jennifer,
Interesting - just checked Jersey 1851 Census and there is only one 12yr old GOSNEY listed but 1871 has about 26!
The older ones/males appear to have come from England presumably some time after early 1851.
Maybe your line is NOT GOSNEY at all but, perhaps something like GASNIER?

Pam

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Perthshire / Re: MYLES - Lethendy - baptism/mge?
« on: Monday 04 April 11 12:14 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Bruce, they are definitely the family.  I am absolutely confident they are 'mine'.  Though I cannot find Janet.  I think she would be one of the younger perhaps born c1811 or later.

I am beginning to think that Janet ANDERSON perhaps didn't marry Adam MYLES but a son John MYLES was born c 1835 - again have been unable to find his christening.
Have been unable to find him in 1851 but in 1861 and 1871 it looks like he was born Lethendy.... though I found it hard to transcribe his place of birth.  All his children were baptised MYLES as well.  It took me over 20yrs to find them -  we knew them all as GRANTs!!

I have just noticed that in John's marriage his mother's name was given as MYLES nee ANDERSON and not as GRANT! Odd.  Janet married James GRANT - 09 Dec 1838, Kettins, Angus, Scotland - source IGI.

Thanks again for your assistance  :)

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Aberdeenshire Lookup Requests / GRANT of Crathie and Braemar
« on: Sunday 03 April 11 12:49 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I have a James GRANT born c 1811-1817 - various ages on various documents, unfortunately.
But it is reasonably consistent that he was born Aberdeen and looks to be Crathie and Braemar.

I have him as follows:
1841 CENSUS
Binzian Mill, Forgandenny, Perthshire, SCOTLAND
Parish 353, ED 3, pge 6
James GRANT - 25 -  born Scotland, Miller
Janet GRANT -  25 -  born in County
John MYLES - 5 -  born in County

He married Janet ANDERSON (widow - I presume of Adam MYLES) in 1838, Kettins, Forfarshire.

1851 Scotland Census
ED: 1 Page: 2   Household schedule number: 13
Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1851_59
Parish 279 - Coupar Angus, Town Coupar Angus, ANGUS
James GRANT - 38 - born Crutha, Aberdeenshire,, Potato Merchant, Head, md
Janet GRANT - 37 - born Scoon, Perthshire, Wife
Jean GRANT - 9 - born Forgandenny, Perthshire, scholar, daughter
William GRANT - 8 - born Forgandenny, Perthshire, scholar, son
Helen GRANT - 5 - born Scoon, Perthshire, scholar, daughter
Elspeth GRANT - 3 - born Scoon, Perthshire, scholar at home, daughter


1861 CENSUS
Registration Number: 279
Registration district: Coupar Angus
ED: 5 - Household schedule number: 14
Line: 17 - Roll: CSSCT1861_37
Timber Market, Coupar Angus, Coupar Angus, ANGUS
James GRANT - 48 - born Braemar, Aberdeenshire, Grain and Potato Merchant, Head,md
Janet GRANT - 47 - born Scone, Perthshire, Wife
James GRANT - 19 - born Forgandenny, Perthshire, Clerk, son, unmd
Helen GRANT - 15 - born Scone, Perthshire, daughter
Elsbeth GRANT - 13 - Scone, Perthshire, scholar, daughter
David MUNRO - 28- born Fodderty, Rossshire, Journeyman Shoemaker, Lodger
David MCGREGOR - 20 - born Perth, Perthshire, Jouneyman Shoemaker Lintor, Lodger

The family came to NZ.
James' death cert gives his father as Gregor GRANT, Shepherd and no name for his mother, unfortunately.

I have been unable to find out more details of James parents/birth.  Would love to hear from anyone with some tips/clues or recognises these names :D

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