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Family History Beginners Board / Re: When Is It OK to Assume?
« on: Wednesday 20 July 11 12:15 BST (UK)  »
Thank you everyone for your feedback - its been very interesting to hear your responses.

I did wonder about the Mickleham births - then I was looking at my tree last night and Ive got a Sarah born 1805 listed on there too which Id forgotten about - she was born in Bethnal Green so I wonder if Ive got it wrong and the 3 in Surrey were children of a different Richard and Sarah

Sarah was born in 1783 so the Dorking Richard would be 10yrs older - not unusual I know and could explain why he might have died before 1841 although Im still not convinced he did as my Gx4 Grandfather Joseph was married in 1845 and there was a Richard Dean as his witness - since Ive not found a brother for Joseph with that name, it could only be his Father or his cousin. 

ARGH  its sooo hard (but gorgeous, lovely fun :D )


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Family History Beginners Board / When Is It OK to Assume?
« on: Monday 18 July 11 13:58 BST (UK)  »
Hi There

Im not exactly a Newbie to researching my tree as been at this 10 years now, but its now that Im starting to realise just how little I know as I dig into Parish Records from the 1700s/1800s.

I have hit a bit of a brick wall with my Gx4/5 Grandfather - Richard Dean - a Silk Weaver.  He was married in 1804 to Sarah Ellis in St Dunstan and All Saints, Stepney, Tower Hamlets. 

Their children were
  • Henry Dean (born in 1806 in Mickleham)
  • James Dean (born in 1811 in Mickleham)
  • William Dean (born in 1813 in Mickleham, Surrey)
  • Joseph Samuel Dean (born in 1815 in Bethnal Green, London)
  • Samuel Dean (born in 1818 in Bethnal Green, London)
  • Joseph Dean (born in 1822 in St Lukes, Middlesex)
  • John Dean (born in 1825 in Bethnal Green, London)

I cannot find a death for Richard and Ive struggled to find the family in 1841.  I do know he was not around in 1851 as his wife Sarah was living in the same building as Joseph, her son. 

Id like to try and find Richard's parents - sadly the witnesses at his wedding were no help and from what I can see of the children of Richard - he didnt keep the Richard name going, but he did keep the Samuel name going.

I have looked at records on the IGI and Ancestry:
There is a Richard born to Samuel and Mary Dean in 1784, in St Leonard's Shoreditch and a Richard Samuel born to Richard Samuel and Jane Dean in 1785, in Bethnal Green.    So not a great help there!  I do know that Richard Samuel Dean died in the 1840s, but his death cert isnt any help either! 

So Im wondering what should my next course of action be please?  Do I need to do some digging in the actual records - if so which parish would I start with. 

Or can I start to make assumptions.  e.g. Because all of Richard's children were mostly born around Bethnal Green, can I assume that he took his family back to his home turf where he was born. 

Id really appreciate some ideas and guidance on this one

hope to hear from you soon.

Best wishes


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London and Middlesex / Re: Help with a Marriage Record Please
« on: Monday 18 July 11 13:22 BST (UK)  »
ooo that was fast - thanks Karenlee

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London and Middlesex / Help with a Marriage Record Please
« on: Monday 18 July 11 11:49 BST (UK)  »
I have found the marriage record of my Gx4 Grandfather Richard Dean
He married Sarah Ellis on 19 Nov 1804 in Stepney St Dunstan and All Saints - Tower Hamlet (it is available to view if you have a subscription to one of the big family history websites beginning with A)

Against his name it says 'of this parish' and the vicar has then written 'and the hamlet of M&NT'

The bride is of 'this parish and same hamlet' which Im assuming means of the hamlet of Tower Hamlet.

Can anyone give me any idea what the letters M&NT could stand for regarding a parish.  (Id like it to be a hamlet in Surrey if possible :D )

All help really appreciated

Many thanks


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Wiltshire Completed Lookup Requests / Re: Wiltshire Marriage Licence Bonds
« on: Saturday 14 February 09 23:32 GMT (UK)  »
Anne
Many thanks for your help re my questions.
That makes it a lot clearer
best wishes

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Wiltshire Completed Lookup Requests / Wiltshire Marriage Licence Bonds
« on: Saturday 14 February 09 17:48 GMT (UK)  »
Ive got a copy of the above on CD and believe Ive found one of my ancestors but Im not entirely sure what all the info provided means.

please can someone assist?

This the entry

19569 MLB YEATES          WILLIAM         22  YEO    WINTERSLOW, WILTS                                                        COOPER            MARY                  22    WINTERSLOW, WILTS    SP
YEATES JOHN,YEO,CLARENDON PARK,WILTS    SALISBURY ST.EDMUND, FEB 6   1748

OK so I think the first no is the entry id.  and believe MLB is Marriage Licence Bond?
Yeates William is the groom and 22 his age
What is Yeo?  I believe its a profession but what?
Obviously Winterslow, Wilts is where he is from.
Cooper Mary is the bridge and age is 22 and Winterslow, Wilts where she is from and SP is Spinster
So who is John Yeates  - father or witness? 

If father then why on this entry is the father not a Judd? and what sort of profession would HUSB be?

10758 MLB JUDD            JOHN             22  HUSB  WINTERSLOW, WILTS   BAC                                                               
FORDER            JOAN        27    WINTERSLOW, WILTS                  SP                                                           
ROGERS CHARLES,CARPENTER,WINTERSLOW                                                                       WINTERSLOW/IDMISTON/NEWTON TONY,DEC 28 1731

All help really appreciated 

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Cound Parish Records - Millichip/chope
« on: Tuesday 26 June 07 09:17 BST (UK)  »
Wow Lloydy

Matthew - Gamekeeper sounds like mine - what sort of things do the Quarter Sessions mention?  Is it court cases?

I will have to request those - did get the Shropshire archives to do a search a while back but these didnt come up. 

Many thanks for the info - thats brilliant! 


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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Cound Parish Records - Millichip/chope
« on: Monday 25 June 07 23:39 BST (UK)  »
Lloydy - Id be most grateful if you could add me to the list, I think I might have to make atrip to Cound at some point in the future :D, but anything you can provide very gratefully received.

Many thanks for hte offer.

best wishes

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Shropshire Lookup Requests / Re: Cound Parish Records - Millichip/chope
« on: Monday 25 June 07 23:14 BST (UK)  »
Hi Lloydy

I believe it is him yes.   That entry is on the Igi, but not his marriage sadly. 

That is spooky :)


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