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Isle of Man / Re: Frances LUCAS Marriage circa 1854
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 23:50 BST (UK)  »
Matilda J. Lawton passed away in October 1901.  Her family members were Captain Henry and Frances Allen and George P. Allen.  She was aged 41 years, 1 month and 1 day.  Isle of Man papers were asked to copy.

Are you interested in further information about the family, or are you only interested in the marriage date?   :)

Isle of Man / Re: Frances LUCAS Marriage circa 1854
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 23:23 BST (UK)  »
1883 San Francisco Directory
Mrs. Frances Allen, bakery, 2926 Sixteenth
George P. Allen, boilermaker, r 2926 Sixteenth

Isle of Man / Re: Frances LUCAS Marriage circa 1854
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 23:18 BST (UK)  »
Perhaps your George?

1866 Voter Registration
George Allen, age 22, birth year estimate - 1864, born California
Event place: 3053 Sixteenth


Isle of Man / Re: Frances LUCAS Marriage circa 1854
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 23:06 BST (UK)  »
Your Allens?

1880 San Francisco Census
Frances Allen, age 47, ________? Bakery, born Isle of Man.  Father born England; mother born Isle of Man
Tillie Allen, age 18, daughter, Keeping House, born California.  Father - Conn.; Mother - Isle of Man
George Allen, age 15, son, At School, born California.  Father - Conn.; Mother - Isle of Man

Perhaps Tillie was Matilda Julia.  Perhaps George was born right before or right after his father's death.

Street address was recorded as Sixteenth (most likely 16th Street, not 16th Avenue)

Isle of Man / Re: Frances LUCAS Marriage circa 1854
« on: Tuesday 08 May 18 23:02 BST (UK)  »
This doesn't help with the marriage or immigration, but in case you don't have the following...

1859 San Francisco Directory
Henry A. Allen, dwl Harris House Pine (Pine Street?)
Henry A. Allen, Purser stmr Cortez, dwl SE Cor Third and Perry

San Francisco, District 10 Census - 20 June 1860
Henry Allen was recorded as age 45, Seaman, born Mass.
Henry and Fanny (age 30) Allen as well as their children Lora F (age 4), Matilda (age 2) and Anne D (age 1) were living next door to John Hyland (Blacksmith) and his family on one side and Henry R. Barker (Brayman) and his family on the other.
1860 SF Directory
Do not see Henry A Allen listed
John Hyland, blacksmith, dwl S s Harrison bet Second and Third
Henry R. Barker, drayman,, dwl S s Harrison nr Third

1860 San Francisco, District 10 Census, 24 July 1860
Henry A. Allen, age 33, Seaman, born Conn
Frances (age 28), Laura F age 4, Julia age 2, Anne age 1
Entry under the Allens was Wm Bailey, Manuf Oil Camphine(?) and wife
Two entries above the Allens was Wm Delaney, Ship Carpenter
1860 San Francisco Directory
Wm. Bailey, agent Pacific Oil and Camphene Co., 70 Front, dwl S s Townsend abv Third
William D. Delany, ship-carpenter, dwl SW cor Third and Silver

Perhaps the Allens were moving between the two locations during the time of the census.

In the obituary in the San Francisco newspaper, it stated:
"...Mr. Allen came to this coast in the year 1854...Mr. Allen was married in the year 1854..."

Death notice for Anna, age 6, daughter of Frances and the late Henry A. Allen, 18 Dec 1865:

1867 San Francisco Directory
Frances Allen (widow) dwl 554 Stevenson
  Could this be your Frances?

Hi Regorian:

I've not seen my brother's results.  It would be interesting to see what matches he may have and are they somewhat similar to mine.

I was thrilled with my DNA results and matches.  While it was interesting to read the "Ethnicity Estimate" I already had an idea of what it would be (however, there was one surprise).  But, I was extremely pleased to find a match to whom we suspected was a distant cousin - it proved that our research was correct and that we did indeed share the same gggfather.  I also found a couple of matches for my semi-brickwall ancestors so for me, taking the DNA test was extremely rewarding.

Thank you for posting, Regorian.  Now I am curious about my brother's possible matches.  :)

PS  Having just read diplodicus' response, my sister-in-law and her sisters were given the tests as Christmas presents.  Their results also varied quite a bit; I don't know anything about their matches.  My brother's DNA results show that he has a large percentage of Irish and a small percentage of English.  My results show about 1/3 Irish and a little less than 1/3 English.  I understand (a bit) about how one acquires their DNA so it makes sense why my brother and I don't have the same amounts and ethnicity with this DNA company.

Thank you for your continued interest and guidance, diplodicus.   :)

Hi diplodicus:

I did find it a bit difficult to understand (I still don't know a lot)  ;) but it is interesting.  In the one-to-many comparison, the first ten results are from two of our well-researched surnames, so while it is interesting to see the names, it would be great to come across some of the people with whom I've been corresponding but have not yet found proof that we are distantly related.  (I hope that makes sense.)

Actually, looking at the results again, I will give it another go - perhaps this time I might find something helpful. 

No, no labeling any Smiths or Jones or Trumps for me, thank you.   ;)  Thank you again for your help and interest.  Lisa

Once you start to cross-reference the matches, the number starts growing. This is because of ancestry's matching process whereby with your 5th to 8th cousins, only matches to 4th to 6th cousins are displayed.

Hi diplodicus:

Thank you for the additional explanation; I didn't know about this aspect.

While I started to write contact information on index cards (one for every ancestral surname), a spreadsheet sounds like a better idea.

I did upload my results to gedmatch, but didn't find anything helpful.  I should look again as it's been a month or two since I last looked.

I hope you are able to find your common ancestor; I know the feeling.   :(  ;)  Thank you for your reply; it is quite helpful.  Lisa

US Lookup Requests / Re: lookup request for jane mair philadelphia 1873 death
« on: Wednesday 02 May 18 00:14 BST (UK)  »
It sounds like you do not have this immigration record (unfortunately, Mrs. Muir is not shown with the family):

The S. S. British Crown sailed from Liverpool, England and arrived Philadelphia, PA on 18 Jan 1880.  Shown are:
Catherine Muir, age 47, occupation - wife
Allen Muir, age 10, child
Catherine Muir, age 7, child
Lilly Muir, age 6, child
To what county belonging: England
Intended to become inhabitants of U.S.

If this is your family, perhaps George sailed prior to his family.

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