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You can see a Google Street view of Garston Old Road at https://goo.gl/maps/GGtni1MDgCv

Stan

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The Common Room / Re: AT WHAT TIME IS A MARRIAGE LEGAL
« on: Thursday 19 July 18 16:31 BST (UK)  »
In a Church of England Service it is surely legal when the officiating minister says "I therefore proclaim that they are husband and wife."
The wording Depends on the year of the marriage service, but the present one is

In the presence of God, and before this congregation,
N and N have given their consent
and made their marriage vows to each other.
They have declared their marriage by the joining of hands
and by the giving and receiving of rings.
I therefore proclaim that they are husband and wife.

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mdu/

Although the law requires that the Registers are filled in immediately after the solemnization of a marriage. This may take place either after the Proclamation or at the end of the service.
Stan

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Understanding the census entry
« on: Thursday 19 July 18 11:46 BST (UK)  »
If you look at this map you can see that there is a nursery next to Ellenborough house, which is what is probably meant by the address. https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/522272/175129/12/100682

You may have to change the zoom level with the - in the left cormner.

Stan

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Durham / Re: Dove Street, Pallion
« on: Wednesday 18 July 18 17:29 BST (UK)  »
This is a good site for a Sunderland Ordnance Survey maps http://www.durham-images.org/public/cemeteries/maps.html
There are street indexes  but the "Index is of a later date that 1956, so it is possible that a street may not appear in the 1956 Block or Sheet Maps. It may have been demolished earlier, and this could be verified by searching earlier editions of the Block Map."
Dove Street is shown at http://www.durham-images.org/public/oldos/b3757/files/assets/basic-html/index.html#3 then you can use the > at the top to see later maps of the area.

Stan

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Durham / Re: Dove Street, Pallion
« on: Wednesday 18 July 18 17:11 BST (UK)  »
This mark shows Dove Street, you may have to change the zoom level with the - in the top left, if you keep zooming out you get the modern map. https://www.old-maps.co.uk/index.html#/Map/437560/557833/12/101200

Stan


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The Common Room / Re: 200 for an 1805 marriage obligation
« on: Wednesday 18 July 18 16:53 BST (UK)  »
The British Association for Local History produce a booklet called "How Much is that Worth?" by Lionel Mumby. In the introduction it says "No single precise, numerical answer is possible to the question: what is the modern value of a given sum of money at a particular time in the past? We do know the monetary price of many distinct items at specific times, but we cannot easily generalise from these prices."

Stan

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The Common Room / Re: 200 for an 1805 marriage obligation
« on: Wednesday 18 July 18 11:04 BST (UK)  »
I have a copy of an 1805 document, signed by the then Lord Bishop of Durham, authorising the marriage of my 4x GGF, at a cost of 200 "of good and lawful money of Great Britain". 
Martin

That would probably be a marriage bond. A visit to the clergyman issuing the licence resulted in three documents, an allegation or affidavit, a marriage bond and the licence. Bonds were a very common legal device. By entering into a bond a person would agree for instance that a statement was true, for a marriage  that there was no "lawful let or impediment" to the proposed marriage. If this was not the case  a penalty was due to the church official concerned, if the marriage did not take place the bond was irrelevant. A marriage bond would mention the two people who wanted to get married, not just one.  By the late 18th Century the penalty was 200. I would expect that they would not have to prove they had the money. After 1823 bonds ceased to be necessary.
See also https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/Marriage_Allegations,_Bonds_and_Licences_in_England_and_Wales
Stan

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Durham / Re: Fighting Cocks - Bishop Auckland
« on: Monday 16 July 18 21:13 BST (UK)  »

Newspapers from the time indicate that when he left the fighting cocks in 1768 he sold what was called a substantial dwelling on the south side of Bishop Auckland market square. Other than saying it was in Bishop Auckland there were no clue as to the location of the inn.

Arthur

Was this him in the  Newcastle Courant - Saturday 16 September 1758 ?

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Durham / Re: Fighting Cocks - Bishop Auckland
« on: Monday 16 July 18 18:16 BST (UK)  »
I was letting the OP amilne 109 know of the other thread.

Stan

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