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Surrey Completed Look up Requests / Re: Robert LINDLEY of Lambeth circa 1830
« on: Wednesday 31 August 22 15:50 BST (UK)  »
Just a correction with permission from HS
Mary Ann PORTER as you say was daughter of Samuel Porter and Mary Partridge. She married Robert John Lindley 1829 Saltash.
The Robert Lindley who married a Mary Williams (wrong on many trees) was nothing to do with this family.
The Robert and Mary Ann found in 1841/1851 born Exeter is the correct Mary Ann Porter baptised in Saltash (diocese of Exeter).

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Samuel Alexander Bell - Lucifer Match Manufacturer London
« on: Friday 06 July 18 21:26 BST (UK)  »
I believe so. George Grimes of Garrett Lane and Bells Cottage/villa dissolved a partnership with George Bell in 1858.


Quote from: punch on Wednesday 08 April 09 19:45 BST (UK)
Hello,

I am still trying to uncover information on the early Bell match factories in London.  I know that a Richard Bell founded a factory in Wandsworth in 1832, but I have also found that a Samuel Alexander Bell opened a match factory on Bow Lane as Samuel Alexander Bell & Co. in 1848 and in 1849 the name was changed to Bell & Black.  I am trying to determine if this Samuel was a brother of Richard.  I do know that Richard did have a brother born about 1811 in Ireland.  I am hoping that someone might be able to review the 1851 and/or 1861 census records to inform me of Samuel's age, place of birth, occupation, address so that I might be able to confirm a relationship.

I also know of a George Bell who was trading as George Bell & Co. on High Street in Battersea as makers of congreves & fusees in 1860.  I am curious to know if there is a George Bell in the 1861 and 1871 census who I might be able to connect to Richard Bell who did have a son George born about 1832.

I would appreciate anyone's help in trying to connect all these men to the early days of match manufacturing.

Thank you in advance,

Karen

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Richard Bell - Lucifer Match Manufacturer London
« on: Friday 06 July 18 21:20 BST (UK)  »
Just to add that young George Bell was in business with George Charles Grimes but dissolved in 1858. George was son of another George Grimes 1811-1862, a manufacturer of cigar or pipe lights, lucifer matches, and vestas.
His daughter (George Charles's sister born in Bells cottages) Catherine married David Taylor of Taylor Match company.
Gone very quiet on this thread!!!




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Census and Resource Discussion / Re: 1939 Register - Annotations and What They Mean?
« on: Saturday 17 February 18 13:17 GMT (UK)  »
Rosie that's because everyone's number has been changed to a 10 digit one. Maybe from 1992 when the Register stopped?
I haven't a clue what mine or my children's are but I know the original ones!
In fact when asked I always give my original one too!

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Richard Bell - Lucifer Match Manufacturer London
« on: Friday 08 September 17 18:11 BST (UK)  »
Am looking for info on the TAYLOR & Co match company at Mitcham Lane in Surrey, owned by David Taylor.
David's wife was Catherine Grimes daughter of George Grimes  a Cigar Light and Lucifer Manufacturer.
The grimes were living in GARRETT LANE in 1841 - 1862 where the BELLS were living. (In 1851 The grimes were living in 'Bells Cottage', and his father Bethel Brimes a chemical worker living in 'Bells Villa'.

Before 1900 TAYLOR match was sold to  R. BELL who in turn sold to MASTERS (the ship) who later sold out to BRYANT & MAY

I had contact from someone some years ago who gave me this info - said his/her cousin John Taylor had  the old formula books and also a factory inspectors report. Was also told that a gentleman called by someone called Sid Gwyn-Smith, who was writing a series of short booklets about the Victorian match industy and was asking for details of the firm.

I wish I could remember who gave me this info....hopefully they will see this on here  ;D




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Essex / Re: ROCHFORD baptism or marriage BLOOMFIELD and COOK
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 20:38 BST (UK)  »
wow! thank you so much smud and sue!
that's knocked down a brick or two...and so quickly!

We will have to buy a new thinking cap regarding the Bloomfields/Blomfields but this really has helped.

thanks again
Hilary (dave's wife)

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Essex Resources & Offers / Re: Essex Records Office - New accessions & charges 21 July 2014
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 16:54 BST (UK)  »

A yearly subscription on top of other subs all adds up and makes it unaffordable. (The bankers had my pension) The colour of the scan is not important. You could order a colour scan if needed. Plus there is NO index which may have justified the costs.
Tis a good job eg Ancestry do not charge per county. (Ancestry is free at most libraries.)
Yes, agreed can use the excuse that it costs more for a trip there, but in this modern day n age we do not need to.  Thank goodness other counties do not feel the same way.  Just seems to be the trend now to make as much money as possible. Am sure if the yearly/half yearly subs were lowered they would make a lot more money!
Hopefully freereg will get in there soon.... ;D

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Essex / ROCHFORD baptism or marriage BLOOMFIELD and COOK
« on: Wednesday 06 August 14 00:21 BST (UK)  »
Hello all  ;D
would appreciate any help finding baptism/marriage of

William BLOOMFIELD abt 1788 - 1866 Rochford
1841 shows him with daughter Sarah 18 and Henry 8. No mother.

Samuel COOK born abt 1800 married an Ann b. abt 1805

stumped

thanks again
D

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Essex Resources & Offers / Re: Essex Records Office - New accessions & charges 21 July 2014
« on: Tuesday 05 August 14 23:55 BST (UK)  »
Such a shame they feel they should charge so much.
 :o
Dave

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