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Tipperary / Re: Stormon/Powers in Nodstown/Thurles
« on: Friday 21 July 17 16:58 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!

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Tipperary / Stormon/Powers in Nodstown/Thurles
« on: Wednesday 19 July 17 17:57 BST (UK)  »
Hello! I am trying to find the parents of Thomas Kelly b. c1813 and Margaret Stokes b. c1820.

My latest slight breakthrough is a DNA connection (that includes me and other known descendants of Thomas and Margaret) to 2 people who are 3rd cousins. Their common ancestors are Michael Stormon b. c1800 in Nodstown, Tipperary and Margaret Powers b. c1809 in Thurles, Tipperary. It would be a breakthrough to find that either Thomas Kelly's or Margaret Stokes' mother was a Stormon or Powers.

(FYI, Thomas and Margaret (Stokes) Kelly had emigrated to Boston, MA by 1838 when their oldest daughter was born. Also, their surviving children were named, in order, Mary, John Joseph, Johanna, Ellen, and Thomas. I have been speculating that Margaret's mother was named Mary and that Thomas' father was named John.)

I'm hoping someone has access to better information than I can find online. Thank you!

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Donegal / Re: McCool/Gatins
« on: Monday 12 December 16 20:32 GMT (UK)  »
sh123, hello! I would love to hear the source of your info. 1825 doesn't sound like Griffith's.

As an FYI, Michael and Catherine had 6 sons:
John, Michael (both born in Ireland, though I can find no record), Peter, Patrick, James and Joseph. In terms of naming conventions, I always thought Michael's father might be named John.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Dunne name
« on: Wednesday 25 May 16 19:25 BST (UK)  »
Basically here, then? (See photo)

I am more convinced that ever that I have found my Kennedys and Bamfords. I still don't know about the Dunns. In the RootsIreland database I located a Thomas Dunn and Jane Dunlop who married in Sep 1845 (my Samuel Dunn(e?) Kennedy was born in 1844). Both Thomas and Jane were Presbyterians, address of Finvoy, parish of First Kilrea. Thomas's occupation was Servant.

Moderator comment: image removed to prevent breach of copyright.


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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Dunne name
« on: Wednesday 25 May 16 14:05 BST (UK)  »
Exactly where was the Vow ferry?

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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Dunne name
« on: Wednesday 25 May 16 02:52 BST (UK)  »
OK, sorry--I had to get through the final week of finals before I could come back to this. :)

It looks like the family goes as follows:
John and Martha Kennedy
to
John Kennedy and Margaret/Pegey Jane Bamford
to
John, Samuel Dunn/e, Hugh B. (Bamford?), Thomas and Elizabeth Kennedy.

Samuel Dunn/e Kennedy is my GGG-GF.

But let's get back to the Dunn/e part.

There was a Jane Dunn who also lived near the River Vow. I'm attaching a map that shows the locations of the Kennedys (west), Bamfords (east) and Jane Dunn (north) (as per Griffith's). However, I can't find out much about her.


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Derry (Londonderry) / Re: Dunne name
« on: Sunday 15 May 16 20:41 BST (UK)  »
I know the Kennedys were Presbyterian "Northies," self-identified as such in family lore.

There is a marriage certificate for John Kennedy and Margaret/Pegey Jane Bamford at First Garvagh on 4 Mar 1839 via RootsIreland.ie. There was a Bamford family in Lisheegan townland in Finvoy. Culnamen seems to be less than 10 miles from Lisheegan, even less as the crow flies, though there is a river between the townlands.

If you go here http://www.oocities.org/heartland/ranch/5632/bv/moneydig_mgrs.html you will also find information on visitation to the Kennedy family in Culnamen (Cooleymen, as it's spelled there), listing a family of Kennedys including a Samuel, John and Hugh. My GGGG-GM Margaret Bamford Kennedy was buried in a plot belonging to Hugh B. Kennedy, who I am assuming is her son.

John and Margaret/Pegey had children named John, Samuel, Hugh, Thomas and Elizabeth (leading me to believe Margaret/Pegey's parents were Thomas and Elizabeth).

Perhaps the Kennedys moved from the First Garvagh church to the Moneydig church, which was built later (1830s?). I can't seem to find full records for Moneydig.

Edited to add: the records in Ireland tend to say Bamford; on Margaret's record for the cemetery she was buried in, her name is spelled Banford.

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Derry (Londonderry) / Dunne name
« on: Sunday 15 May 16 18:39 BST (UK)  »
My great-great-great grandfather Samuel Dunne Kennedy was born in Co. Londonderry, probably near Culnamen/Moneydig/Garvagh, in 1844 to John Kennedy and Margaret (Pegey) Jane Banford (Bamford?). His family was Presbyterian and were members of the First Presbyterian Church at Garvagh.

I am curious about his middle name. I cannot seem to find any likely Dunne families in the area, much less in the family history.

Was it unusual for Presbyterians at the time to use random middle names for their children? Or use the middle name to honor some sort of non-family member?  If I am correct in my research, then John Kennedy had a brother named Samuel, and that is why he likely named his son Samuel. But the Dunne part is strange, and family lore cannot explain the provenance of the name.

Any ideas/thoughts?

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Ireland / First name Bridget
« on: Wednesday 05 August 15 15:10 BST (UK)  »
Has anyone found that women from Ireland with the given name Bridget changed their given names to something less Irish sounding when they emigrated to the US?

I have twice found records for ancestors that are perfect matches except they list Bridget or Biddy for a first name, but in the US they have a different name.

Just curious.

Wendy

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