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Armed Forces / Re: Northern Cyclist Battalion magazine
« on: Monday 06 November 23 09:46 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks Boo,

I looked on that and could only find personal papers, I'll send an email.

Thank you.

Michael

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Armed Forces / Northern Cyclist Battalion magazine
« on: Monday 06 November 23 06:46 GMT (UK)  »
Morning All

I'm trying to trace a copy of "the northern mudguard" the regimental magazine of the Northern Cyclist Battalion from World War One, I don't suppose anyone has come across it in an archive somewhere?

Thanks very much,

Michael

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The Common Room / Re: Does anyone know of any current Ancestry special offers?
« on: Thursday 17 August 23 11:06 BST (UK)  »
50%-off deals  :)

Annual Worldwide for £89.99
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/checkout/mli?direct=1&quantities=1&flow=3&offers=O-24532&rType=11

Annual UK Premium for £59.99
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/checkout/mli?direct=1&quantities=1&flow=3&offers=O-24531&rType=11

I have just renewed my Worldwide subscription for £89.99 using the above link so it's still up and running   :) :)

Very Happy Michael

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Northumberland / Re: Major Dawson central school camp
« on: Wednesday 12 July 23 10:35 BST (UK)  »
Thanks a lot Boo,

I think that's exactly what it is, very interesting.

Michael

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Northumberland / Re: Major Danson central school camp
« on: Wednesday 12 July 23 10:01 BST (UK)  »
Thanks a lot ShaunJ, that's a big help.

It's now brought up a blog about Jarrow Central School where someone mentions attending a summer camp run by him in Hexham. It sounds like it might be an actual camp, like a trip to High Borrans for those who have heard of it.

It also appears as if there are still summer camps run today under that name.

Thanks for the help,

Michael


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Northumberland / Major Dawson central school camp
« on: Wednesday 12 July 23 09:07 BST (UK)  »
Morning All,

I've just discovered a distant relative who at the age of 12 was recorded on the 1921 census as being at Major Danson central school camp near west Pykes field (the summary says Mr Pyke's field) in Rothbury.

There appears to be over 60 people there, mostly young teenage boys but also a few girls, some married couples and right at the end of the list a couple of teachers from Jarrow central school and an inspector from the board of education

I've tried a google search for this place but can't find anything. Has anyone ever come across it before?

Was it an actual school camp or was this code for a work house or similar?

Thanks a lot,

Michael

Edit: title altered to help future searches

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Northumberland / Re: War Graves Week at Preston Cemetery, North Shields
« on: Saturday 27 May 23 07:49 BST (UK)  »
Thanks a lot, the weather looks good at the minute so fingers crossed.

Michael

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Northumberland / Re: Newcastle War Pensions Hospital
« on: Friday 26 May 23 15:42 BST (UK)  »
Part 2

His pension card has the following service numbers and Regiments on listed in the
following order:

• 5/589 then 47513 Northumberland Fusiliers
• 20853 Durham Light Infantry (14 Mar 1919)
• 34456 West Yorkshire Regiment
• 60431 Royal Defence Corps (Treatment)

It’s not known if this is the order he has been in the various regiments however the service
numbers would suggest that he started in the 5th Battalion, Northumberland Fusiliers and
stayed with them long enough to be allocated his new number. It’s also known that he
definitely ended his service in the Royal Defence Corps. This was used for home defence
and quite often filled with older men or those who had been wounded and were not fit
enough to go back overseas.

What is known is that his address on the pension card is recorded as 18 Churchill Street
which is his parents’ home. His parents died within months of each other not long after the
date it’s thought George was awarded his pension. His father died during the first quarter
of 1920 followed by his mother in the second quarter of 1920.

That address was not changed during all of his payments, the first of which was on the
23rd of February 1920 and the last of which appears to be on the 16th of March 1923
which it says is to last until the 24th of March 1925 so presumably he was living in his
parents old home the whole time.

The pension payments were made for him, his wife and four children however on the
payment made on the 28th of April 1920 there is a note saying “instead of ?????award,
wife dead”. The missing word is difficult to read, it begins with C, but the payments
continued for everyone so maybe his wife’s payment was made for a carer instead,
meaning the money would have been for his sister in law Amelia.

It is interesting that the pension card shows the money is for 4 children so perhaps all four
boys were living with Amelia and their grandparents during the war. It could be that when
George moved back home he was unable to look after the young children and that their
grandparents death was the point they were sent into care. This is pure guess work and
will only be known for sure if the Barnardo’s records are obtained.

George did not survive for long after the war, he died in 1927.

On the 12 of November 1927 a pension application was received from his sister in law,
Amelia Caroline Robson, the card says she is the guardian of children and the date 1932 is
written on the bottom so she may have been awarded the payments for a further 6 years.

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Northumberland / Re: Newcastle War Pensions Hospital
« on: Friday 26 May 23 15:41 BST (UK)  »
This is what I had written as his story (and no, not many uncomplicated):

In 1881 he was living with his parents, his sister Georgina and his brother John at 39
Wilfred Street in Byker, Newcastle. His father, Robert, was an unemployed plumber of gas
fittings.

By 1891 the family had moved and was now living at 44 Churchill Street in Westgate,
Newcastle. His father was a plumber of gas fittings and had six children in total including
the now 14 year old George.

The voters register shows that between 1893 and 1894 the family moved to 18 Churchill
Street in Westgate, Newcastle.

The next census in 1901 shows that at the age of 24 he was living at 18 Churchill Street in
Westgate, Newcastle with his parents and was working as a plate worker. He was the
oldest of the six children who were all still living at home.

In 1902 he married Maria Louisa Bagg in Newcastle. The exact date hasn’t been confirmed
but it would have been sometime between July and September that year.

At some point George joined the army and although the exact details have not yet been
found it is known that he was initially given the service number of 5/589 and was part of the
Northumberland Fusiliers, the 5 indicating he was a member of the 5th Battalion.

Looking at similar service numbers this would suggest that he joined sometime in 1908
meaning he was a pre WW1 territorial (or part time) soldier.

In 1911 the census shows that the now 33 year old Robert was working as a millwrights
labourer at the Elswick works and was living with his wife and two sons, Albert and
George, at 112 Elswick Terrace in Newcastle. It also shows that they’d had a third child
who had died.

The information on the 1911 census also confirms that he was definitely not a full time
soldier as he would not have been working as a millwright if he was.

At the start of the war the 5th battalion, like other territorial regiments and battalions, was
involved in home defence and the 5th battalion Northumberland Fusiliers were sent to
become part of the Tyne Defences.

On the outbreak of war TF units were invited to volunteer for Overseas Service. It’s
possible he joined one of the supernumerary battalions meaning he would have stayed on
home (UK) service for the whole of the war, this may fit with one of the service numbers he
was allocated and the fact that no medals can be found.

In 1916 George’s wife, Maria, gave birth to their 4th son, Robert. Unfortunately she died a
few months after giving birth so Robert was taken in by her sister, Amelia whilst the other
three boys went to Barnardos, the exact they were sent is not yet known.

George’s pension card says the date of first application was the 23rd of February 1920 and
when he was first assessed he was classed as 30% disabled. It’s thought that is the
approximate date he would have been discharged. On the 14th of June 1922 he was
reassessed and his disability increased to 40% but unusually none of his record cards
show what was wrong with him.

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