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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: Jane Forsyth 1763 - 1839
« on: Monday 08 April 24 19:07 BST (UK)  »
The William Forsyth is the one shown on all the other trees & I have not done as many others have done i.e. just taken it as gospel which is why I queried it. Thank you for the link to Wikipedia. I presume many others wanted a famous name in their tree.
As for all the baptisms I have not checked them and have taken the transcription from Ancestry. It will be a good idea to look at the originals.

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Moray (Elginshire) / Jane Forsyth 1763 - 1839
« on: Monday 08 April 24 16:55 BST (UK)  »
Hi There, I would appreciate some thoughts regarding my 4 x Great Grandparents (Maternal) Alexander King & Jean/Jane Forsyth. In particular Jane.

I think she was born 3rd April 1763 in Alves, Moray to George Forsyth & Margaret Thomson but all the other trees that I have seen show her as being born 1st October 1760 in Botrophine, Banffshire to William Forsyth (Forsythia Botanist) & Anne/Agnes MacKay. (I know not to trust other trees without verification).

Alexander & Jane were possibly married in 1785 but I cannot find any proof of this on Scotland's People website.

Alexander & Jane had 7 children whose births I have found in the OPR's were all born in Keith, Banffshire.
Margaret 1788, Alexander 1790, Jean 1792, Helen 1794, George 1797, John 1800 & Isobel 1803.

Using the Scottish naming pattern I would expect to see a William somewhere especially if William Forsyth was a Botanist & also there is no Anne/Agnes whereas there  is a Margaret (first daughter) & George (second son). Another thought is that there could have been a child (or two) born between 1785 & 1788.

I have not been able to confirm Alexander's parents yet but it is a possibility that he was born in 1764 in Marnoch to James King & Elspet Innes.

Jean possibly died 1839 in Keith. The OPR shows her as wife of Alexander King.
Assuming this is correct I checked for Alexander's death between 1839 & 1855 & there was an Alexander King who died 21 Feb 1841.
Neither OPR gives an age which would have been helpful.

I could not see an Alexander King in the 1841 census for Keith of an appropriate age.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: helen Horn 1802
« on: Tuesday 13 June 23 20:37 BST (UK)  »
William was shown on the Memorial inscription along with his parents but not with his middle name so I am certain he is correct.
I take your point about her siblings so I am still a little unsure.
I have taken a DNA test so I will try the different parent options & see what transpires.
Thanks.

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Aberdeenshire / Re: helen Horn 1802
« on: Tuesday 13 June 23 18:59 BST (UK)  »
It was her son who registered her death but as I said, if she had been adopted at age 2 1/2 then she may have only known Ph & Id as her parents & told that to her children.
Another clue could be that her first child with George Nicol was called Robert Duff Nicol. The last child of JH & EB was William Duff Horn. According to other trees but I cannot find a baptism for him which is possibly because his father died just before he was born. I have tried to contact the other tree owners to find out where the name came from but no luck so far.

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Aberdeenshire / helen Horn 1802
« on: Tuesday 13 June 23 15:03 BST (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can give me some information about Helen Horn who was born in Drumblade in 1802 to James Horn (1748 - 1805) & Elizabeth Barron (1760 - 1814). Helen was my 3 x Great Grandmother.
There is a bit of confusion regarding her birth & parents.
I have information about her from 1827 - 1892 when she died in the form of Census records, Marriage record & Death certificate.
She had an illegitimate son Alexander (2 x Great Grandfather)(1827 - 1898) by James Gray (1798 - 1874) in Forgue.
She married George Nicol in Forgue in 1833 & appears in an 1836 Church Census with George & Alexander in Forgue.
All other records show her as having been born in Forgue in 1805 & her death certificate shows her parents as Peter Horn & Isobel Duncan.

My query is that there was no baptism record for Helen in 1805 to Peter & Isobel but there were 3  children baptised in Forgue. John 1802, Christian 1806 & Alexander 1809.
There was however a Helen born in 1802 in Drumblade to James Horn & Elizabeth Barron who also had 4 other children James 1796, Alexander 1798, Jean 1800 & William 1805.
James (snr) died Jan 1805 & Elizabeth died March 1814.
Could it be that when James died Elizabeth would have been left on her own to bring up 5 children & so Helen & possibly the others were adopted by other families.
If so then Helen would have been about 2 1/2 years old & may have been ignorant of who her real parents were & always thought of Peter & Isobel as her parents & the date of adoption (1805) as her birth year.
In other words is Helen 1802 & Helen 1805 the same person If I can find any information about Helen 1802 then that will reject my theory.

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Scotland / Re: 1939 register for scotland
« on: Monday 12 June 23 17:12 BST (UK)  »
I am not sure about the Scottish version because I have not used it but I should imagine there will be certain redactions.

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Scotland / Re: 1939 register for scotland
« on: Monday 12 June 23 16:50 BST (UK)  »
The Scotland version is basically a waste of time. You have to tell them the information & all you will get is the information for that one person, unlike the England version which gives you the whole page. I am not aware of another method of searching but you could try Scottish indexes on face book & they may help you.

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London and Middlesex / Re: John Cramp 1762 - 1809
« on: Saturday 23 April 22 11:55 BST (UK)  »
William & Ann were my wife's 3 x Great Grandparents & she is also descended from John Cramp Jury.
Our tree differs from you in the fact that we have William dying in 1830 aged 40 & Ann dying in 1841 age 53 & she did not remarry (as far as I can see)

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London and Middlesex / Re: John Cramp 1762 - 1809
« on: Friday 28 January 22 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
Yes I will tackle that subject.

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