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Good day.  I am helping my father-in-law with his family tree and have a brick wall that I am hoping someone might be able to help me with regard his Great Grandfather, John William Thomas.  Here's what I know

Born circa 1938 (I believe in Liverpool--though family stories say he may have been the Thomas who came from Wales).
Married Margaret Johanna Godwin (d of Arthur Godwin and Agnes McKenzie Reid) November 15 1866 in Edge Hill, Liverpool, Enlgand

Children
John Arthur Godwin--born Jul 27 1869 in Liverpool, died 1912
Helena--born 1871 in Liverpool (her name is questionable as it appears to be Alline in the 1871 census and Helena in the 1891 census), unknown death
Francis Patrick--born 1874 in Liverpool, d Mar 7 1948 in Accrington
Richard--unknown birth and death

John William, 1871 census shows age of 28, but believe this to be incorrect as the 1861 census shows age of 23.  Both census show his birth place as Liverpool

John William is not listed in 1881 census, therefore death between April 2, 1871 and April 3, 1881

John William was Brass Moulder (deceased) on Francis Patrick's marriage certificate.

Lived on 50 Prussia Street in 1861, according to Poll Book and Gore Directory of Liverpool 1853 (which lists him as a tinman and braizer).

Now, here is where I need the assist:

1) Father-in-law says that John William was owner of a factory (from the Gore Directory, it would make sense he was a Brass or Metal factory owner).  Is there any history about this, anywhere?

2) The big one is his death.  Father-in-law says that John William committed suicide, but cause of death was covered up because he was a "well off factory owner".  I have come across a few John Thomas in the Death Registry, but can't find a clear one for this one.

What I am hoping, s that someone may have already done the research and can share with me,.

Thanks

Bill

sorry, yes, you're right (silly me)

What do you mean by birth certificate - these were not issued until 1837.  Is it his baptism record

Good day.  First time posting, so hope doing it correctly.

I am at a lose for my 4th Great Grandfather, John Silvester (Sylvester, Sylvestor, Silvestor).

I have a birth certificate for my 3rd Great Grandfather, John Charles Zebedee, born 1824 in Damerham, Wiltshire, England.  On that John's mother is listed as Mary Zebedee (born in Cranbourne, Somerset, England).  I know most things about Mary, except her death date and where she died.  It's John Charles' father I'm at a lose for.

All I know is his name, again, John Silvester with all those possible spellings.  He was born circa 1795 in Heathfield, Uckfield North, Sussex, England (though it shows as Surrey in a few documents).  That's about the extent of what I know.

My Aunt, who had previously done research, received information that John Silvester was a dentist, married (no idea who to) and had an affair with Mary Zebedee, resulting in John Charles.

There is a list in the Bastardry Register for John Charles, which confirms the information on the Birth Certificate.

Anyone out there offer any suggestions?  Or, anyone already know about John Silvester and can share their information with me?

Appreciate any help you can provide.

Bill Zebedee
Dartmouth, Nova Scotia
Canada