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Hi Mark



Down stream family connections through marriages are usually  a couple meeting by chance.

Evelyn Hood Marshall (a descendant of George Hood via his Son, John Hood of Selby, Tanner / Fellmonger) married Thomas Grubb descendant of Maudland (nee Hood) Turner in 1906 marriage .

Only connection of John Hood mariner died 1819 Selby of Scarborough to George Hood cooper 1812 of Wren lane Selby is the first meeting by chance a century later   of descendant couple  Evelyn Hood Marshall and Thomas Grubb married 1916

In my view !
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( In that drama " Woman of substance"   Emma Harte from being a maid for the rich Fairley family mill owners,  till Emma left them and built a wealthy empire herself, she hated the Fairley family later she acquired the Fairly family house from a gambling son losses and had the house pulled down brick by brick also the land grassed over as a park for local folk.

About 50 years later Emma gathered her family to reveal the contents of her Will before she died
 - her granddaughter engaged boyfriend surname was a  Fairley family descendant - Emma's family thought she would have excluded her granddaughter out of her Will knowing how much Emma hated the Fairley Family

Emma asked her granddaughter one question- Where did she meet her boyfriend - on a bus said the granddaughter - Emma said - Oh ! a chance meeting - she said and put her in her (Emma's) Will. )


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Hi Mark

Keeping to basics

To be honest, the way you have searched for George Hood of Selby's beginnings deeply over many years, for or finding records that have survived (Much admiration of you in doing so - as most people would have given up) but its seems no records have survived on George to even hint of his life before 1812 in Selby unless he was adopted and renamed from his birth/baptised full first and surname which would explain why there is nothing in documentation on George after such research been done Also nothing in doc's on how he acquired his trade skills, (7 years apprenticeships usually needed for each trade) Cooper, Tanner and Brewer.

Indecently there was nothing found that survived in documentation after George Hood son of John
 Hood  baptism 1786 Gateshead, like a marriage, burial or a following life either. :-\

So its seems no records have to survived to proved anything only circumstantial documents suggesting Scarborough through Maudland Hood which brings in John Hood mariner post 1775 if he remarried again and if it was Jane (Maiden name ~ ? )Hood wife of John the mariner buried Selby 1803 or another lady and maybe more children.(One being George born abt 1786)

A Puzzle. ???

Dave

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Durham / Re: George Son of John Hood bapt Gateshead 1st Oct 1786, any info please?
« on: Wednesday 08 May 24 04:08 BST (UK)  »
Jane Hood Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 years.


Possible Quaker link if it could be proven -
Now if this could be proved true and Mary Barton was of the Barton family of Scarborough, that would mean the Grandmother of Maudland Turner (nee Hood) was almost certainly from a family with Quaker family links.

1753 Malton Monthly Quaker Meeting
Jeremiah Barton Son of William Barton late of Scarborough deceased ...
Married
Elizabeth Ruston daughter of Thomas Ruston late of Scarborough also deceased.
Relations
Mary Ruston
Barbara Ruston
Robert Ruston
Joshua Reeve
Sarah Gott
Jemima Reeve
Ann Saul

Other attendees at the marriage are named
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Discussed before, the son of John Hood of Scarborough buried at Old Malton.

1781 Old Malton
James Son of John Hood of Scarbro'

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Court of Chancery
   
Short title: Betson v Noble.

Document type: Depositions.

Plaintiffs: Thomas Barton and Mary Barton, infants (by George Marshall).

Defendants: Matthew Noble, Mark Noble and Richard Peacock (executors of Gawen Noble, deceased) and others.

Depositions taken at Scarborough, Yorkshire.

Date of bill (or first document): 1724.


Comment
Now if these Barton children in the Court case were linked to the above Barton family of Scarborough and of Malton by 1753 (some of whom were Quakers) and if the catalogue description is a good summary, it would appear to link two Barton children with a Marshall? Or he had been appointed to represent / Tutor (case not seen).

If so, this might explain why Mary Ann Prince [Daughter of James Prince of Scarborough, later of Selby] was present also as a witness at 1794 Selby marriage of Charles Turner & Maudland Hood, because James Prince married Grace Marshall at Scarborough.
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We have proven (by signature comparison) the Stears signature at the 1794 Charles Turner = Maudland Hood, marriage was a Quaker.

Mark

Hi Mark

(I'll leave it now with this !! )

Picture forming - dates realistically fit after death of Elizabeth Hood (Spencer-Leppington ) 1775 to baptism of James Hood son of John mariner. 1781 Old Malton (George Hood birth approx 1786)
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Fact:

Jane Hood Wife of John Hood of Selby, Mariner, 65 years burial Selby 1803   (but no other info on her ?)
 (WHY )




Scenario :

A Quaker marriage between 1775 to (Baptism of James Hood Old Malton 1781) 1781 of Jane ???? (burial wife of John Hood 1803 Selby) x John Hood ....................?

Fact:

1781 Old Malton
James Son of John Hood of Scarbro'


(George Hood born 1786 approx from his death age 60 in 1846 Selby)



and

Fact:

Some of George's children had Quaker wives. ?

Fact :

George Hood burial 1846 aged 60 none practicing Quaker but buried in Quaker burial ground Selby
   (WHY )

Dave

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The Common Room / Re: Parish burials
« on: Tuesday 07 May 24 04:22 BST (UK)  »
  It also depends where in the country they were. Dobfarm is describing North country parishes, I think, which bears little resemblance to the parishes in my area, which are smaller with one ancient church and graveyard.

I agree, there was ancient  parishes of various sizes and its not always the case a member of the  parish church (Minster) is buried in that churchyard, there is a case were one male who died 1845 died aged 60 years who had been a Overseer in the Selby (Minster) parish  administration was found buried in a Quaker burial ground as a none practicing member.

There are cases where a deceased was buried in the nearest churchyard ? even though it was in another parish to their abode, as parish boundaries and road routes to nearest church were not always the same thing - that could be miles difference in travel their own parish church. (Mostly in rural countryside parishes)

Best take nothing for granted in genealogy

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1781 Old Malton
James son of John Hood of Scarbro'

Has James's burial place been checked for an Headstone or MI records in Old Malton  C of E ( or Quaker) burial ground.

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The Common Room / Re: Parish burials
« on: Monday 06 May 24 21:27 BST (UK)  »
As already posted it depends on the time period of a burial, early 19th century, 18th century or before were big parishes with a mother parish church with it own churchyard, but the parish had chapelry churches with their own churchyards in different villages in the big parish and the burial sometimes recorded in chapelry register and duplicated in the parish mother church register.

It could get more complicated when  2 or more big parishes boundary met in the same village
 
For example;- Holmfirth in the then old West Riding of Yorkshire in England UK, Kirkburton Parish was in the south of Holmfirth and Almondbury parish in the north but the mother churches of both parishes were miles away near Huddersfield and close to each other by a mile or two. Then to make life more complicated some pockets in Holmfirth Almondbury parish boundary belonged to Kirkirburton parish.  (One big headache for a researcher  :(:)



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Hi Mark,

You have  posted a lot of research over a few years - so duplicating is likely by other members
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another scenario

 Jane Hood who died 1803 Selby makes me wonder ? if she was a Quaker originally (Quaker marriage) but she buried C of E ( husband John Hood's religion ? possible mother of George )

We thought George being buried in  Selby Quaker burial ground as a none practicing member of the Quakers, left us thinking it was his Quaker daughter in law's influence ? - but Jane Hood died 1803 wife of John Hood marine could have been the quaker connection originally. (Iffy suggestion but  ??? so was George's burial place at first.)

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The Common Room / Re: Finding female relatives
« on: Saturday 04 May 24 11:59 BST (UK)  »
One has to remember ! these dates are just before world war 2, all sorts of things could have happened, like records lost, people being killed in a bombing blitz that were not recorded, service people killed in action or missing not being recorded and there is the 100 years on some documents. Being late or modern times history post 1939 reg, maybe known or findable living relatives may have records in their own family records.

                           Just a thought

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This would probably answer the Jane Hood 1803 burial query

dates fit

John Hood X Jane Newby marriage 3rd Nov 1793 Scalby - Scarborough

Jane Hood wife of John Hood buried Selby 1803

(Maybe Chester is a step brother to George ???) Chester Newby on George Hood of Selby marriage Bond allegation 1815 as his bondsman


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