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Oxfordshire / Re: Street family - again!!
« on: Tuesday 27 June 23 07:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi TT77,

I'm not sure if you already have this piece of info but Jane Street (born abt 1808) married in 1848 to
William Woodward in Ipsden  and lists her father as John Street, Labr.


Marianne Street was bapt... 26-2-1837 Ipsden , single woman.

These entries tie up with the 1841 census Jane is aged 33 but I think you may already know this.

Alam


Thanks Alan, yeah, Debbie did all this earlier research for me in the original days of the initial post [2009]. What a legend....I feel like I owe her hug now. If only I had been able to piece it together sooner....but there you go....the timing of getting the photo [2012] and then realising I could use the photography studio to broaden my search (!) ....there's a good lesson in that for any readers :)

Thanks again

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Oxfordshire / Re: Street family - again!!
« on: Sunday 25 June 23 22:41 BST (UK)  »
Thanks Alan for the baptism above. 

After revisiting this thread in it's entirety I think we can safely deduce that my GG grandmother Mary Ann/Marianne is in fact the illegitimate daughter of Jane STREET. Therefore the granddaughter of John STREET and Ursula DEACON (as seen in 1841 census).

The baptism of "Marianne Street d/o Jane Street, of Stoke Row, Singlewoman"  in Feb 1837 fits and I have been unsuccessful in finding any other baptism that may match our lady.

So Jane seemingly also had George Street (b. 1831) out of wedlock. I still haven't found a baptism record for George.

This George Street married Mary REEVES in 1855, Ipsden, Oxfordshire. On this marriage record his fathers name is written as "John"  [with no surname], and in fact the "John" word is crossed out and a mere scrawl is written where the surname ought to be. I must admit this is something I haven't seen before in all my years of research.   Presumably both he and sister Mary Ann Street used their maternal grandfathers name "John Street" as their father, as a way to hide their illegitimacy.


 I am thinking of contacting Oxfordshire records office for some help with this family anyway. Especially for the years Mary Ann and her young sons were at the Henley Union Workhouse.

Interestingly, Jane Street was born 1808, and her parents, John and Ursula married in July 1808 in Ipsden, Oxford.

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Oxfordshire / Re: Street family - again!!
« on: Sunday 25 June 23 07:51 BST (UK)  »
Oh and I forgot to mention I finally found a baptism for my great grandfather George STREET, son of Mary Ann STREET

22 April 1864 St Marys Church, Henley-on-Thames "George Street s/o Mary Ann Street abode: Henley Union Workhouse"

George was aged about 10 at this time, and it shows he and his mother (and presumed brothers Thomas and Charles) were at the Henley Workhouse for at least 3 years. [having been seen there in 1861 census]

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Oxfordshire / Re: Street family - again!!
« on: Sunday 25 June 23 06:30 BST (UK)  »
UPDATE!
After all these years of searching, I have uncovered more about my great great grandmother Mary Ann STREET of Oxfordshire.

I was fortunate enough to be shown a photo of , what was believed to be, Mary Ann as an adult. The frame was intact and gave a photography studio in Reading, England. After failing to find any census or death record for Mary Ann beyond the 1861 Henley Workhouse census, I decided to look for a marriage in Berkshire (where Reading is located, the place the image was taken).

I found the other marriages previously mentioned in this thread (William TRANTER and Job GREENAWAY), and dismissed them based on no matching census info for these potential marriages. The other name I discovered was "Henry BARRETT" in 1876, registered Hungerford, Berks.
I thought, well that's interesting.....BARRETT being the surname Mary Ann's son, George STREET used for his mothers maiden name on his marriage in NZ in 1896. It was too coincidental. So I checked census records for this couple.

1881 I found them as follows:
Peppard Cottage Farm House, Henley, Oxfordshire
Henry Barret   age 46      Head    Occ: Pensioner Gardener Domestic   Born: Kintbury, Berks
Mary Ann Barrett  age 44   wife   Occ: wife domestic                          Born: Henley-on-Thames, Oxf

And in 1891:
Brook Street, Bensington, Wallingford, Henley, Oxfordshire
Mary Ann Barrett    age 55   Head    Widow    Occ: Seamstress      Born: Henley-on-Thames, Oxford

While the birth place for Mary Ann was not quite the same as 1861 ("peppard, Oxford"), I thought it was close enough given the age matches. And bearing in mind this woman has eluded me in all other census searches.

So I ordered the marriage certificate and the following information was gleaned:

Henry Barrett     Bachelor    of full age    Occ: Labourer   Residence: [kell?] Peppard  Father: Thomas Barrett  deceased

Mary Ann Street   Spinster  of full age     Occ: Servant   Residence: [Kell?] Peppard  father: John Street   deceased

I purchased a death certificate (reg 1891 Oxfordshire) for Mary Ann BARRETT and the following was revealed:

Mary Ann Barrett   died 1 Jun 1891  Brook Cottage, Bensington, R.S.D, widow of Henry Barrett (occ: Farm Labourer and an Army Pensioner)   Cause: Gangrenous Erysipelas;  Informant: George Street, Brother, residing Well Place, Ipsden, Oxford

Now I had a father, John STREET and a brother, George STREET.

Now I was confused as we had previously found a family with a "Head" being John STREET with wife "Ursula Street" in 1841, with a young George Street (age 11) and Mary Street (age 4) with seemingly their adult daughters Jane Street (age 33?) and Rachel Lucass (married with her husband in household also).

It has been a thrill to discover these connections, but I still need to tie them all together somehow. I have searched Ancestry.com.au for baptisms for George Street (b. 1831 Ipsden) and Mary Ann Street (born 1836 Peppard) and nothing is coming up.

I am confident George STREET , the brother on Mary Ann's death certificate is the George STREET born 1831 in Ipsden, as using his residence from that document, he matches an 1881 census record:
 "1 Well Place, Ipsden, Oxfordshire
George STREET" age 50, Head Married  Occ:  Agricultural Labourer       born Ipsden, Oxford
[with wife Mary]

If anyone is interested in this very protracted search for my great great grandmother, feel free to offer insights and tips on how I can put the puzzle pieces together. I am always grateful to the Rootschat members who contribute and share an interest in my family history.

Many thanks in advance, regards,
J






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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / *Completed* Re: Help deciphering places please
« on: Saturday 17 September 22 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Just noticed that the writer of the cert has changed the heading of the cert to read -- in the Counties rather than County and then listed the counties of Berk + Wilt.   It looks like the parish of Hungerford straddles the county boundary https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/WIL/Hungerford

Kay

Thanks again Kay.   I had a good read through the list of Parishes, but my amateur eye didn't spot anyting that would match the document writings....nevermind. I am satisfied that it appears to be Hingerford, in the "Counties" of Berkshire (and other?)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering places please
« on: Saturday 17 September 22 23:22 BST (UK)  »
I see Hungerford as well, but the writer puts odd breaks in it:

Hung erford  in Berk Shire.

Thank you so much for your insight. It certainly looks like Hungerford (written as you say with 'gaps').

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: Help deciphering places please
« on: Friday 16 September 22 05:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Kay,

Yes, Hungerford is the registration district as entered into the GRO index.
Is that what you were meaning?

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Help deciphering places please
« on: Friday 16 September 22 05:25 BST (UK)  »
Hi rootschatters, hoping someone with better handwriting deciphering skills can help me read the county name and Parish name on this 1876 document please?

I know the persons name "Thomas Barrett" and the word "Deceased" but am struggling with the Parish name and location, and the 'residence at time of marriage'.
This was registered in the Hungerford district, Counties of Berkshire, Hampshire and Oxfordshire.

The married couple lived at Peppard in 1881, so I am pretty sure that is part of the location name for their residence, but any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks in advance.

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Moray (Elginshire) / Re: Barron's of Alves, Morayshire
« on: Monday 12 September 22 10:16 BST (UK)  »
Forfarian,
thanks for your contribution....I guess my wording needed to be clearer, but I was specifically searching for more personal details of Robert and Barbara themselves, ie, births (and therefore their parentage) and also a death record for Robert. I had their marriage and children already. Scotlandspeople has not unearthed a death for Robert, nor birth information for either.

Perhaps I should have been more specific in citing the record of Barbaras death, but we're all human and have memory lapses.

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