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Bedfordshire / Re: Who are Ellis Hare's parents?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 14:04 GMT (UK)  »
Ah yes thats my Ellis (d.1826) and his own son (d.1775 aged 3).

But no clues as to who my Ellis's parents were still. I'm not sure where else to look now.

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Bedfordshire / Re: Who are Ellis Hare's parents?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 12:15 GMT (UK)  »
1740 Ellis was born in Cardington. I wondered of that Ellis was a younger brother who died and he was named for?

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Bedfordshire / Who are Ellis Hare's parents?
« on: Friday 18 February 22 10:43 GMT (UK)  »
Hello! I was wondering if someone might be able to help me untangle something!

I have an Ellis Hare (1740-1826), who was married to Elizabeth Sanders (1744-1810) - but I have some confusion over his parents!

From what I can find, I have his mother and father as Edward Hare (1661 - 1760) and Mary Ellis (1670 - 1726).

Now I know things have changed since the 1600's but I'm almost certain even then you couldn't give birth 14 years after you had died...

There are a couple of possibilities I can see:
- Edward remarried after Mary died but he would still have been about 80..
- My Ellis is actually the son of one of the men I've marked as his brother, Elis (B.1707)

I can't find any further information.

Could anyone help? Thanks in advance!

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Bedfordshire / Re: Can anyone help me untangle a confusing situation please?
« on: Monday 29 March 21 16:03 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Yes the baptisms say John Wilson is listed as father. Hmm - let me look at the 1841 census again! I know John is listed at Boarder at one point but they lived together for the rest of their lives.

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Bedfordshire / Re: Can anyone help me untangle a confusing situation please?
« on: Monday 29 March 21 15:34 BST (UK)  »
Ahhh OK so as I read it - John Chesham marries Frances and is later shipped to Australia for trying to murder a gamekeeper.... :-[

Then Frances gets together with John Wilson and has more children. And I am descended then from John Wilson, who is Louisa's father (since John Chesham is a million miles away in Oz at that point)

Because she was still technically maried to John Chesham, the kids went by Chesham to keep up appearances I guess.

Poor Frances - that must have been quite a lot to go through. A lot of the women in my history had tough times...

I really appreciate your help with this - thank you!


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Bedfordshire / Re: Can anyone help me untangle a confusing situation please?
« on: Monday 29 March 21 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Ive found John Chesham on the Llloyds Convict Ship in 1833.... so I guess any of the kids born after that were John Wilsons?

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Bedfordshire / Re: Can anyone help me untangle a confusing situation please?
« on: Monday 29 March 21 15:07 BST (UK)  »
Thank you!  Yes she married William Field.

I first saw her as Chessum rather than Chesham but she also appears on censuses as Wilson before she married? The family (Frances and John Wilson) lived on Palace St in Biggleswade and appear on the censuses.

Thans for your help on this. I'm wondering if her first husband abandoned her. I just find it odd that more kids were born after he left but kept the Chesham/Chessum name even though John Wilson must have been their father.

John Wilson is listed as the Head of the household on some censuses but the last one it's 'Boarder' but that could just be an error!

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Bedfordshire / Can anyone help me untangle a confusing situation please?
« on: Monday 29 March 21 14:38 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Hoping someone can help me - I'm totally stuck!!

My 5x Great Grandmother Frances 'Fanny' Hare (Yes, I know) seems to have married a John Chesham in Biggleswade in aroun 1820ish, and had children. So far so simple.

Except in 1833, John Chesham goes to Australia and died there 21 years later.

In the menatime, Frances seems to have met John Wilson and I think had more children including my 4 x Great Grandmother Louisa.

The problem is - the kids all seem to go by either Chesham or Wilson - and Louisa goes by Chesham even though her father was John Wilson.

I'm really confused and I can only think maybe I have gone totally wrong somewhere? Can anyone help me please? Thank you for any advice you give in advance!

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Bedfordshire / Orphaned ancestors - where do I go next?
« on: Wednesday 03 March 21 16:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I was wondering if anyone would be able to advise me?

I've found that my 5x Great-Grandfather Abraham Kilby was orphaned at the age of 1, along with his siblings when his parents Robert and Elizabeth both died within six months of each other in 1740 in Langford.

I know that he survived and went on to have a family of his own but I was wondering if there was any way I could find out what happened to him and his siblings. I don't think there were censuses then? Perhaps family took them in? But I dont know how to find out more.

Could they have been sent to a workhouse if not?

I have checked newspapers in case anything was in there but nothing.

Also his mother and a baby were buried on the same day in 1740 (Elizabeth and baby Eliza) - am I safe to assume that Elizabeth died in childbirth?

It all seems such a sad story.  :'(

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