Help needed! looking for Morris John William & Henry William - Islington?

[BIDDY18]

Help Needed !

I'm looking for John William Morris (DB abt1886)  and Henry William Morris his father -
(Mercht Seaman)  -  Islington,Shoreditch,Bethnal Green area ?

I know he married in 1909 (spouse Ada Bagnell) at the Shoreditch register office. 

How do I trace where John William and Henry lived before 1909 ( tried the census no luck).

Can not find John's birth cert (unless I buy b/cert  around 1885, 1886,1887,1888 a small fortune).   

Thanks,

Biddy

[casalguidi]

Hi Biddy

Welcome to Rootschat

Do you have any further information from the marriage certificate ie. John William MORRIS' occupation/address, marriage witnesses?

Casalguidi

[BIDDY18]

YES

The address the bride & groom gave was 6 New North Rd

John William - Milkman

George Lee & Sara Lee

Hope you can help,

biddy

[janan]

Hi Biddy
Welcome to Rootschat This young man looks promising - the family he is with are somewhat confusing 
Jan

1891
13 Boston St, Shoreditch
Sarah Carey Head Widow ?50 London Hoxton
Ellena Jessie do Daur S 17 Dressmaker London Shoreditch
Margaret Do(think do applies to Carey) Lee Daur M 26 Head (added later) do do
Henry Morris 9 Scholar do do
John Morris 4 Scholar do do
George Lee 2 do do
No relationship given for any of the children
RG12/254 Pg6

[janan]

And this one
Jan

1901
72 Haggerston Rd Shoreditch
William Jones Head S 30 Dairyman Employer Cardiganshire
Elizabeth do Sister 27 Cardiganshire
John Morris Serv S 16 Dairyman's Assistant Worker London
RG12/278 Pg8

[BIDDY18]

Hi,

Thanks for a quick response! (it took me 3 days to find this info).

I found this on the census -   so I ordered birth cert it came back, mother's name Margaret Carey and father name John Morris?

A marriage between a Margaret Carey and a Henry Morris may have took place in Bethnal Green  ( waiting for the cert to arrive).

Biddy

[janan]

Fingers crossed Let us know
Cheers jan

[BIDDY18]

Thanks! Jan

Is there any other way I could be searching for Henry William Morris?

Biddy

[janan]

Looks like Henry is dead by 1891 if that is the right family as Margaret seems to be married to an absent ? Lee - another seaman perhaps. You could have a search for Henry in 1881 putting vessels in parish box in case he is at sea.
Cheers jan