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Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« on: Friday 03 February 06 17:38 GMT (UK) »
ON THE ANCESTRY .COM SITE WHILE I AM LOOKING FOR AN ANCESTOR IN WALES.     THE DISTRICT COMES UP LLANBADARD FAWR AND SOMETIMES LLANBADARN VAWR.     ARE THESE THE SAME MEANING JUST SPELT WRONG ON THE CENSUS FORM.
williams from Llanbadarn Fawr, ABERYSTWYTH
Harris from Horspath, Oxford
Jacksons from oxford
probets from thame
chowns from sydenham, bucks

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 03 February 06 18:02 GMT (UK) »
LLANBADARN VAWR is the correct name.
http://www.aberystwyth-online.co.uk/topographical-dictionary/llanbadarn-fawr.shtml

In Welsh the letter F is pronounced the same as V in English .
Hope this helps
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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 03 February 06 19:22 GMT (UK) »
THANKYOU THAT'S A GREAT HELP
williams from Llanbadarn Fawr, ABERYSTWYTH
Harris from Horspath, Oxford
Jacksons from oxford
probets from thame
chowns from sydenham, bucks

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 03 February 06 19:33 GMT (UK) »
Thanks from me, too, Patricia.

I'm not a welshman, but I used to live in Maerdy, in the Rhondda Fach valley and knew the difference between Rhondda Fach (Liitle Rhondda) and Rhondda Fawr (Large Rhondda), so I would have probably answered "Fach"

I think Fach and Fawr are the usual way of writing them these days,
I wonder when it changed ??

Bob
 
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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 06 February 06 11:54 GMT (UK) »
I rather think it was always F....there is no letter V in the Welsh alphabet and it was only changed from Fawr to Vawr because of the inability of the English to cope with the pronunciation and spelling.

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 07:43 GMT (UK) »
Who are yoy looking for in llanbadarn Fawr?
My family names are Probert and Evans
cheers cardiff :)
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Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 13:48 GMT (UK) »
I AM LOOKING FOR ANYONE CONNECTED TO THE WILLIAMS FAMILY.
MY GRANDFATHER WAS BORN IN LlANBADARD FAWR THOMAS RICHARD WILLIAMS.   HIS MOTHER WAS MARY ELIZABETH nee WILLIAMS BEFORE SHE GOT MARRIED SHE LIVED AT 1 QUEBEC COTTAGE Llanbadarn fawr.    HER  HUSBAND WAS JOHN WILLIAMS WHO IN 1905 LIVED 12 RHEIDOL PLACE, ABERYSTWYTH.
THE BROTHERS AND SISTER OF THOMAS RICHARD WERE  JOHN BRENLEYborn 1908,   ALWYN LEWIS born 1912..   ELIZABETH EILUNEDborn 1910.
THERE MUST BE SOME FAMILY STILL LIVING AROUND THIS AREA.
KERRY
williams from Llanbadarn Fawr, ABERYSTWYTH
Harris from Horspath, Oxford
Jacksons from oxford
probets from thame
chowns from sydenham, bucks

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 13:49 GMT (UK) »
BY THE WAY CARDIFF, MY SURNAME IS PROBETS SOMETIMES SPELT PROBERTS.
KERRY, THIS IS MY HUSBANDS NAME.
williams from Llanbadarn Fawr, ABERYSTWYTH
Harris from Horspath, Oxford
Jacksons from oxford
probets from thame
chowns from sydenham, bucks

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Re: Llanbadarn fawr or vawr?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 08 February 06 16:18 GMT (UK) »
HI Funny the surname interest .. Proberts. Sorry no Williams on my side.
Sorry I am not in Aber , so cannot help you.
cheers cardiff ;)
All CensusTranscriptions are Crown Copyright

Read Wiltshire /Pontypridd
Dove Lincolnshire/Pontypridd/Cardiff
Barnhouse Cardiff/Pontypridd
Wilkes Shropshire/ Staffordshire/ Rhondda
Fletchers Staffordshire/ Glamorgan
Wright Somerset/ Glamorgan
Probert Cardigan/Rhondda/Shropshire
Jenkins Cardigan
Lewis Cardigan
Morgan Penderyn/Pontypridd
Stephens Penderyn
David Glamorgan
Whitby Forest Dean
Hughes Goodrich/Pontypridd
Jackson/Smith London /Kent/Glamorgan
Hughes Maesteg/Ynyshire