Suggestions required - John William Brown

[clr1979]

We are trying to find a birth cert for John William Brown, only problem is we dont know where he was born.

John married Annie Eva Hamilton in Romford in 1892. They had a son in 1895 called Cyril Frederick Brown also in Romford. Now, between 1895 and 1910 they had 2 more sons, George & Arnold (years and places unknown), and in 1910 they had a daughter called Alma Frances Helena Brown who was born in Wolverhampton. John died in Wolverhampton in 1928.

On both johns marriage cert and Cyrils birth cert John is down as a Seargent in 2nd Leciestershire Regiment.

Are there any records available for this regiment for the 1890's?

Does anyone have some sort of access to records for this regiment that they could check for us?

Other than military records, can anyone suggest anywhere else to look for Johns birth that we may have over looked?

Sorry for all the questions, but its starting to get a bit frustrating not being able to find him and we're not sure where else to look.

[D ap D]

Hi,

if you go to:

http://www.regiments.org/regiments/uk/inf/017Leics.htm

There is all sort of basic info about the regiment, including a link to :
http://www.armymuseums.org.uk/amot-search/default.asp?Category=Amot&Service=Museum-Display&reference=0000000105

Which is the Regimental Museum. Based on my own experience trying to find my GGF in the Black Watch, they should at least be able to point you in the right direction, if not give you exactly the info you are looking for.

Good luck
D ap D

[Nicky]

HI
Do you have an age for John off the marriage certificate,if you do,let me know and I could search the census for you to try and find him, that should then give a birth place.

Nicky

[clr1979]

Nicky,

John was 24 and Eva was 17.

Thanks.

[Nicky]

Hi here are some census details

1881 for Annie Eva

Household:

 Name  Relation Marital Status Gender Age Birthplace Occupation Disability
 Thomas HAMILTON   Head   M   Male   34   Ireland   Sergeant 56th Regiment     
 Matilda HAMILTON   Wife   M   Female   28   Ireland       
 Eva HAMILTON   Daur   U   Female   6   Kurrachee, India       
 Adelaide HAMILTON   Daur   U   Female   4   Kurrachee, India       
 William T. HAMILTON   Son   U   Male   2   Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England       
 Alma S. HAMILTON   Daur   U   Female   10 m   Portland, Dorset, England       


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Source Information:
  Institution   "Nrth Camp Aldershot A B & C Lines"
  Census Place Farnborough, Hampshire, England
  Family History Library Film   1341306
  Public Records Office Reference   RG11
  Piece / Folio   1252 / 70
  Page Number   9

1891 for  Thomas Hamilton

Hamilton, Alexander 4 Great Warley, Essex Son  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, Alma 11 Great Warley, Essex Daughter  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, Ethel 6 Great Warley, Essex Daughter  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, Matilda 38 Virginia, Ireland Wife  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, Olivia 6 Great Warley, Essex Daughter  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, Thomas 42 Virginia, Ireland Head  Great Warley  Essex   
Hamilton, William 13 IOW Son  Great Warley  Essex 

Source information:    RG12/1374
Registration district:    Romford 
Sub registration district:    Hornchurch 
ED, institution, or vessel:    12 
Folio:    69 
Page:    22

I have checked the original image and all details are correct.Thomas is an Instit Lunatic attendant.

This seems to be where his daughter Annie Eva is working as a kitchen maid.
Name:    Hamilton, Annie Eva
Age in 1891:    16 
Gender:    Female 
Where Born:    INDIA
     
Civil parish:    South Weald 
Ecclesiastical parish:    Warley Christchurch 
County:    Essex 
Source information:    RG12/1382
Registration district:    Billericay 
Sub registration district:    Brentwood 
ED, institution, or vessel:    Essex County Lunatic Asylum 
Folio:    176 
Page:    23


this is only a possibility for John, age is right but I cant see where it says the regiment.,this is 1891 census
Name:    Brown, John
Age in 1891:    22 
Gender:    Male 
Where Born:    Lee l, Kent
     
Civil parish:    St Giles 
Ecclesiastical parish:    St Giles and St Botolph 
County:    Essex 
     
Street address:    .
Condition as to marriage:    .
Education:    .
Employment status:    .
Occupation:    .
     
Source information:    RG12/1408
Registration district:    Colchester 
Sub registration district:    Colchester First Ward 
ED, institution, or vessel:    Cavalry and Artillery Barracks 
Folio:    107 
Page:    24

I looked on the 1901 but couldnt see them

Nicky

[Nicky]

Hi
I have had a look through and found this John Brown born Birmingham.

 Name:    Brown, John
Age in 1891:    23 
Relation:    Soldier 
Gender:    Male 
Where Born:    Birmingham, Warwickshire
     
Civil parish:    Wymering 
Ecclesiastical parish:    Wymering 
County:    Hampshire 
     
     
Source information:    RG12/883
Registration district:    Fareham 
Sub registration district:    Fareham 
ED, institution, or vessel:    Hilsea Barracks (1) 
Folio:    103 
Page:    14

I have searched through other census but with no luck linking him to his father.

Goodluck with your research.

Nicky

[PaulineJ]

Since you have a potential Groom age 2 born in Lee, Kent; Have it checked out on the '71 London Census (Lee comes under London). You may be able to match it with father's name and occupation.

Pauline

[Hackstaple]

Lee is just down the road from me. It woulod likely be found under Lewisham.

[PaulineJ]

Lee is just down the road from me.

I'll have to pop in for a cuppa next time I'm down. You anywhere near the Yorkshire Grey?

PAuline